Sonic: "Too late, Kane! I've reversed the polarity of the neutron flow!" Kane: "Un-reverse it now, or I'll shove this red hot spike UP YOUR [censored]ING ASS!"
And Sonic cries out "KAAAAAAANE!".
Next Amy touches the Chaos Emerald attached to the Kintobor computer which causes a human-hedgehog metacrisis resulting in the birth of Silver. Dun dun DUNNN!
Hahahaha! I like it!
I would try and come up with something witty but it just wouldn't be.
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Re: Sonic the Comic #246 « Reply #177 on Jul 23, 2008, 9:38am »
Actually, has anyone ever noticed that the interior of Sonic's Emerald Hill base with the Kintobor computer console looks a lot like the inside of the TARDIS?
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Re: Sonic the Comic #246 « Reply #179 on Jul 23, 2008, 10:10am »
I've begun to absolutely hate Doctor Who recently. The show is actually really good, but never before has something completely taken over the British geek culture like this, to the point where PEOPLE SEE IT IN EVERYTHING. The first strike was when people assumed the introduction of STCO's Family mob boss, Don Longlegs was a reference to the Jagrafess character in the first series. Since then it's just all the freakin' time, man! I can't take it anymore. It takes the phrase 'one track mind' to dangerous, society-consuming new levels. It's gotten to a point where I'm combing through my scripts, trying to edit out all the things that could be construed as ripping off Who. This show has become the bane of all fantasy writing, ever. It's garnered the same kind of obsessive fandom as Buffy did, back in the day, to the point where it's pretty much become the central archetypal hub that represents all modern storytelling. Every example of subtle foreshadowing is now a Bad Wolf reference, and every lone travelling hero is a Doctor. Every scary fascist invader army is a Dalek, and every secret society is a Torchwood. It's a cool little show....BUT GET OVER IT, UK GEEKS. Memes and nerd culture are in abundance at the moment, and at this point in time the whole thing is decidedly Tardis-shaped. I can't escape it. There is no haven from Who, not even in Sonic the Comic.
Like I said, I love the new series, but the fandom is just -- ARRGH. I'm not calling you out Xavious, your comment is fair and true, it's more of a general rant against every British geek. Arrgh. And don't you hate it when you start ranting, and then suddenly you can't remember if you actually have a point or not? I probably don't.
Actually, has anyone ever noticed that the interior of Sonic's Emerald Hill base with the Kintobor computer console looks a lot like the inside of the TARDIS?
Sonic fans are hopeless [censored]ing morons who'd let a rapist into their house if he was dressed as Bean.
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Re: Sonic the Comic #246 « Reply #182 on Jul 23, 2008, 3:52pm »
I'm not that obsessive over Who actually. Your looking at the guy who knew little about the proper series and adored the Peter Cushing movie 'Daleks Invasion Earth 2150' (or whatever it's called) through most his childhood, caught only bits of the 1996 movie and thought it looked amazing and only started watching the show at the end of the new first series.
So seriously, I'm not a Doctor Who geek who sees Who everywhere. I only recently noticed the connection and randomly spouted it out.
Also I know it might be annoying for you JJ (what a cute name ^^) but I rather like it when my mind finds links between different media and it's fun to imagine if the creators took inspiration from something else or if it was simply coincidence.
In fact there is a lot about STC which feels very 'British' and it really sets itself apart from other Sonic media such as Archie in the way it's presented and the direction of the storytelling. For me STC feels as much a part of British heritage as Doctor Who is claimed to be.
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Re: Sonic the Comic #246 « Reply #184 on Jul 23, 2008, 4:03pm »
I'm not that obsessive over Who actually. the proper series Peter Cushing 'Daleks Invasion Earth 2150' the 1996 movie
So seriously, I'm not a Doctor Who geek
Beg to differ
OK 'Who geek in training' if we must get technical. But my knowledge of the original series is weak at best. And I don't ship 10 and Rose which means I'm definitely not that much of a Who geek.
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Re: Sonic the Comic #246 « Reply #185 on Jul 23, 2008, 4:24pm »
I think its more the case of stretching connections that pisses off Jamie as opposed to seeing inspiration in someone's work (there is that phrase "Nothing is original", afterall). Because Don Long Legs was on the ceiling it just HAD to be a reference to the Jagrafess, because it couldn't have been inspired subtly by Spider-Man or Batman or anything else. Nope. Could've only been from Doctor Who.
That's the kind of reasoning that seems to be getting to him.
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Re: Sonic the Comic #246 « Reply #188 on Jul 24, 2008, 7:38am »
I thought it was a bit more like Star Trek. Which story was it a tribute to?
Holy [censored], Grimer's the real Last of the Time Lords!
When I decided on all the Brotherhood of the Metallixes stuff I was was definitely thinking of the Daleks. So in this case I actually was inspired by Doctor Who.
Nigel Kitching said that "The Detour" was a Doctor Who tribute...
It was, kind of. If I remember right it was all that creeping around with a monster hiding just around the corner. So it was a very particular childhood memory of Doctor Who.
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Re: Sonic the Comic #246 « Reply #192 on Jul 25, 2008, 3:21pm »
"There was once a young clerk who disagreed sharply with one of Curzon's memoranda. He thought it was Balls. But he was afraid to say so directly, so he wrote faintly in the margin, "Round Objects". To which Lord Curzon replied in a note: "Who is Mr. Round, and why does he object?" -Sir Alan Lascelles
Mobius had three wise hedgehogs from the Eastern Zone, who brought gifts of sneakers, chilli dogs and rings to lay beside the manger in the Emerald Hill Zone cattle shed.
Oh, is that why there was all that time travel in those two Metallix stories?
I'm surprised you can remember all this stuff, Nigel...
Actually I'm pretty sure the time travel stuff didn't come from Doctor Who. As Robert says one of the times was inspired by the Time Stones from one of the games. But I seem to remember that wasn't the case in the first Metallix story. It's probably that I just like time travel stories. My strongest memory is of getting calls from Rich telling me that the time travel plot just didn't work and having to keep convincing him that it did.
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Re: Sonic the Comic #246 « Reply #196 on Jul 26, 2008, 4:49am »
I loved the Sonic Terminator. I never played Sonic CD before reading it but after finally doing so I finally realised what a great adaptation it was. I loved how you managed to put in the shrink machine from Metallic Madness and make it work well within the plot, better even then the original game. It was all so very clever condensing a huge game into a few strips.
I loved the Sonic Terminator. I never played Sonic CD before reading it but after finally doing so I finally realised what a great adaptation it was. I loved how you managed to put in the shrink machine from Metallic Madness and make it work well within the plot, better even then the original game. It was all so very clever condensing a huge game into a few strips.
Thank you.
I actually don't remember much about that story. I occasionally think about reading some of my old strips - I have enough distance from the work now to approach it as a reader and I'd probably be surprised by some of the stuff.
But maybe that would be a bit weird...
I confess that I have read some of my Decap Attacks and have found myself laughing at some of the gags I'd forgotten (even the ones I'd nicked...). Of course, on the other hand, other bits have made me cringe.
When I decided on all the Brotherhood of the Metallixes stuff I was was definitely thinking of the Daleks.
Would you believe I didn't actually expect to be right on this?
Of course I didn't get up one morning and just decide to rip off the Daleks, it just doesn't work that way.
Richard Burton had told me that the Mettalix story had been popular (or maybe it was just that he liked it, in any case I had a positive response). Oh, by the way I also remember that Richard Burton told me that the first story was about as complicated a plot as he ever wanted to see in the comic. It was kind of put to me to keep things a bit simpler in future. Of course I had no intention of paying any attention to that, me being me.
Anyway, what to do next with Mettalix? I should point out that this is not a specific memory of how I worked on this it is just the way I worked - so don't take this as the true story behind the creation of the Mettalixes.
So you have the Mettalix - what can you do to develop this character? Well, he's a robot so more can be built, but how many would be good? 5 or 10 maybe - how about a multitude, you can just start to imagine a sky filled with the things - too many to count. But this lacks focus, we need a central figure a super Mettalix to take charge like a queen bee. But as you go down this quite logical route stuff pops into your head - your ideas remind you of something you have seen or read. At this point you make a decision to either embrace the idea and not worry about the similarities or decide to alter the idea away from that thing you've just been reminded of. So, for example, if the one Emperor Mettalix bothers you maybe change that - how about three Emperors? How about something quite different in charge - if a powerful figure still seems too familiar how about going for something really unlikely - a child, or maybe the hero himself. Maybe the Brotherhood exists in the expectation that Sonic himself will be their leader? Maybe all the destruction they have caused is a misguided attempt to please Sonic?
But with the Brotherhood I do remember that during the creation I recognised the Dalek similarity and just decided to go with it. Doctor Who was not current so it seemed unlikely to jar with the readership and I just fancied writing them that way.
Sometimes people ask me about any plans I had for the series which I didn't get chance to write. Maybe you can see from the above that my mind doesn't work that way that I just didn't have exact plots just a jumble of 'maybes' and 'what ifs'.
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