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Post by Retro on Oct 20, 2010 15:34:12 GMT
As we said, we have a significant American readerbase, thus we must consider their culture as well.
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Post by Balls on Oct 20, 2010 15:44:31 GMT
As we said, we have a significant American readerbase, thus we must consider their culture as well.
Fair point.
Although it's not a massive fuss to me, as the filter can easily be dodged and no one's going to call you on dodging it when you are changing context (no one's going to think that Solid Snake was smoking a homosexual and get offended), if you look at its common usage on this forum, it has (as far as I've seen), been used in a non-offensive manner. "Faggot" should still remain censored, as it's very rare anyone actually needs to talk about the food type, but cigarettes will crop up in conversation far more often.
And again, if it does come up in conversation about food, then the filter is avoidable.
It just relies on you trusting members to not start spamming homophobic abuse at each other and start discussing lung cancer. |
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Post by madhair60 on Feb 28, 2011 20:07:38 GMT
Re: the Worst STC Stories thread  Retro: "This is quickly moving out of discussion and into trivial details of posts and meanings. As such, a few mods have been watching and contemplating stepping in. I feel it's best to do so now. Ozzyoscy, after reading through this neutrally after coming back onto the forum, it is from your posts that any problems here are stemming." This is completely unfair. A cursory glance at the thread shows that Ozzyoscy was put on the defensive immediately by some patronising deconstruction. It started off when he bumped this thread, which was slightly frivolous but he's not to know. That was followed by some "I'm a mod and I say this" ridiculousness. Not the nicest "welcome", and guaranteed to immediately put any relatively new poster on the defensive. Then we have Nigel equating Ozzyoscy's making observations clearly based on his perception of the stories with "guesswork", which isn't really on. Then we get to the patronising "Your opinion is your opinion, but I think you're picking holes where there are none, for the most part." from Arch101, which is a deeply confused effort. You can't pick holes where there are none, that doesn't even register as a sentence. It contradicts itself within five or six words. But that's not the issue, the issue is tone, and the tone is unpleasant. More reason to be defensive. Then we come to KKM: "I think the thing is more that you shouldn't just head into a comic's forum and bash it's writers, I says. Until you had found something regarding whether the writers were out of ideas or not, just declaring them like that is quite unfair. As for your points, I honestly just think it's a question of taste; as much as you liked it as a kid, StC isn't quite a comic for what you like. EDIT: Also, in case you didn't realize it, the reason people may be getting a little flippant at you may be due to the fact you're insulting the writers of the comic et al, with the main writer of the comic (Nigel Kitching) being here to read it all. It's a bit... unconfortable." What bull[censored]. More fear of criticism - Ozzyoscy isn't even being fierce about it, just offering opinions in an environment increasingly cold to them. Then we have Tom's "Well, the onus is on you to demonstrate otherwise...". He might as well have added "child". Shay pops in to say "None of us have been rude or insulting towards you. We have simply disagreed." If only, mate. I respond with "Well... there have been frequent patronising comments, and passive-aggressive silliness. I feel a little saddened that ozzyoscy has already fostered a negative opinion of the place, but it's all par for the course really.". After this point Ozzyoscy accurately deconstructs Tom's baffling posts, then Retro steps in and BLAMES OZZY FOR THE WHOLE THING. Staggering; I mean, COME ON. Fix up. Obviously, demonstrably a poor call. Apologise to Ozzy, move on. Edit: Also- "trivial details of posts and meanings" The meaning of posts is NOT TRIVIAL. |
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Post by Nam on Feb 28, 2011 20:15:42 GMT
^ Double posting is bad. You're gonna get banned for that, even though it's in the secret rules you never had a chance to read. How dare you go against popular opinion and think independantly!  |
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Post by madhair60 on Feb 28, 2011 21:28:40 GMT
Still no sign of an apology or a retraction, despite several mods being online.
There's nothing to discuss, guys. This is black and white. You done [censored]ed up.
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Post by Baron Canier on Feb 28, 2011 22:13:06 GMT
Minor event blown out of proportion by the local mods putting their foot in it. Déjà vu.
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Post by Mambo's Here! Look Busy! on Feb 28, 2011 22:14:57 GMT
Guys, I'm sure its easy to get upset - but if you have disagreements with a modding decision it is always best to PM us, not make a public post about it. All that does is foster more arguing. As it happens, we are already discussing this issue. Edit - and I'm certainly not local, I'm in another country! hehe! |
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Post by Matt on Feb 28, 2011 22:14:57 GMT
Minor event blown out of proportion by the local mods putting their foot in it. Déjà vu. as opposed to our non local mods  and again lets not tar everyone with the same brush here. |
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Post by madhair60 on Feb 28, 2011 22:17:52 GMT
Guys, I'm sure its easy to get upset - but if you have disagreements with a modding decision it is always best to PM us, not make a public post about it.! Lock this useless thread, then. I already explained that there is nothing to discuss, it is self-evident that a mistake has been made. |
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Post by Mambo's Here! Look Busy! on Feb 28, 2011 22:20:13 GMT
A suggestion doesn't have to be a disagreement. |
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Post by Baron Canier on Feb 28, 2011 22:44:55 GMT
While we're on the subject of locking threads, can we please destroy the "trivial complaints" thread? Its so full of impotent bitterness and hate. It's moved far away from quips like "the jam jar won't open" to making spiteful remarks about everything.
The fact that it's one of the fastest-growing threads around is also borderline depressing.
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Post by Arch on Feb 28, 2011 22:55:27 GMT
While we're on the subject of locking threads, can we please destroy the "trivial complaints" thread? Its so full of impotent bitterness and hate. It's moved far away from quips like "the jam jar won't open" to making spiteful remarks about everything. The fact that it's one of the fastest-growing threads around is also borderline depressing. Just because you (and Stu) don't like the thread doesn't mean others enjoy posting in it to vent their trivial frustrations. Just don't read it. |
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Post by Beeth on Feb 28, 2011 23:02:46 GMT
While we're on the subject of locking threads, can we please destroy the "trivial complaints" thread? Its so full of impotent bitterness and hate. It's moved far away from quips like "the jam jar won't open" to making spiteful remarks about everything. The fact that it's one of the fastest-growing threads around is also borderline depressing. You realise what you're doing, there? You're complaining about people complaining! ;D It's in human nature (British nature, especially), to have a bloody good moan about things. It's a way of life, everybody does it. I can't, and don't, begrudge this, in fact I find it quite amusing at times to listen to the stuff people complain about. But different strokes etc. That's cheered me up a bit, weirdly. =P |
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Post by Baron Canier on Feb 28, 2011 23:12:05 GMT
You realise what you're doing, there? You're complaining about people complaining! ;D Yeah, I realise, but I felt it needed to be said even if no one decides to do anything about it.  It's in human nature (British nature, especially), to have a bloody good moan about things. It's a way of life, everybody does it. I can't, and don't, begrudge this. Nor do I. But there's a line, y'know? |
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Post by madhair60 on Feb 28, 2011 23:13:53 GMT
I've raised this before and it was shot down. I'm sorry for inflicting that toxic thread on the internet, I really am.
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Post by ShayMay on Feb 28, 2011 23:16:17 GMT
The Trivial Things thread will stay. I'm not its biggest fan myself (being a wussy and hating things of a negative nature, I'm a sunshine person, me), but sometimes it's nice to have a good vent after something winds me up. Plus, it's easily avoided, no? I've taken a live and let live approach to it in recent times.  Right, the main reason I'm here is to apologise for my own personal actions, specifically in this post, and the two that followed. ...Wow. You've resurrected a thread from 2005 for that post? Next time, make a new thread, please.  1) I honestly didn't mean it in this way, but upon re-reading, that comes across as pretty snarky. I was more impressed he'd gone all the way back to 2005 to find the thread, but it came across completely wrong. 2) This is, actually, false. I was alerted by a few folks, and asked for confirmation from a more experienced mod, and yes, necro-posting is fine so long as you have something to say. I didn't mean to kick off a confrontation with it, and probably could have handled it better, in hindsight. Chalk this one up to inexperience. I sincerely apologise. Besides my blunder, however, I agree completely with the mods' decisions in that thread. Also, nothing can kill the Grimace. |
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Post by RS on Mar 1, 2011 2:26:03 GMT
I've raised this before and it was shot down. I'm sorry for inflicting that toxic thread on the internet, I really am. If you hadn't have done it, I'd have only created it, under the name Anger Management (which I may have done in the past). |
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Post by Beeth on Mar 1, 2011 9:15:36 GMT
Nor do I. But there's a line, y'know? I'm aware there is a line, and it has admittedly been crossed before in that thread. At the end of the day, though, I just think "it's their problem, let 'em deal with it in their own way", and pay no further heed to it. For me personally, though, if the thread ever became engulfed in political rants/arguments etc. that would be the point at which I'd stop reading it. There's nothing (at least, not much) that gets folk heated up more than politics, and so I can't really be doing with that. I'm aware there's an existing thread for politics, which I've never read for much those reasons. Each to their own, though, and I welcome the existence of that politics thread as it keeps the subjects from spilling over needlessly into other threads. The trivial things thread arguably does a similar thing with it's existence. Well, mostly. |
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Post by madhair60 on Mar 1, 2011 10:47:51 GMT
Besides my blunder, however, I agree completely with the mods' decisions in that thread. That's not enough. Explain why you think it was OK to place the blame squarely on Ozzy, and I'll refer you to my previous post by way of an explanation as to why you're wrong. Still waiting for retraction/apology for this obvious injustice. |
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Post by Balls on Mar 1, 2011 17:40:30 GMT
It's easier to blame the new guy who wasn't here yesterday than it is to blame several people who've been here for a while, ironically in the hope that it wouldn't kick up a [censored]storm of any kind.
It has backfired.
RE: Trivial things thread-
It should, theoretically, stay open. On the other hand, it's just full of hatred, hypocrisy, offense and really portrays somewhat psychotic thought patterns approximately 800% of the time.
It's a stupid thread and I would suggest avoiding it.
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Post by madhair60 on Mar 1, 2011 20:04:23 GMT
Plus the last page or so was complaining about people who smell terrible, usually a pretty obvious indication of mental illness, or homelessness. Pure class.
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Post by Balls on Mar 2, 2011 6:49:43 GMT
Plus I've read at least one racist comment in there that was glossed over by most people.
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Post by Matt on Mar 2, 2011 23:32:34 GMT
i don't often read the thread, so if you want to point it out can you drop me a PM |
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Post by Arch on Mar 3, 2011 8:50:41 GMT
Does anyone actually use the "Sonic's World Index" thread? It might have been a good idea at the time, but now it's completely out of date and still stickied.
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Post by Calisto on Mar 3, 2011 8:57:51 GMT
I've recently gone through the boards, destickying threads. I did notice that one, and I thought that when I had time to, I'd update it.
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