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Post by Alex on Jul 21, 2012 9:39:44 GMT
Saw this last week and I thought it was actually pretty good. A lot of leanings towards Ultimate Spider-Man makes me quite happy, and having Spider-Man crack a joke once in a while was more satisfying than it really should be. In response to the previous two posts: Captain Stacy died 'cos that's what he does. He's as prone to it as his daughter.
Yes, it was Norman Osborne talking to Dr Connors at the end.
The Lizard will be back as the intention is to, after this trilogy of movies (or in the third itself), do a Sinister Six storyline Avengers style.
The storyline about Peter's Parents takes after Ultimate Spider-Man a lot. In that, it's specific to the Venom storyline (which Dr. Connors plays a large role in as well, but quite different to the take here - though he is ultimately responsible for creating Carnage and killing Gwen). I'd expect they'll eventually adapt the remainder of that storyline and throw in Eddie Brock as another of Richard's former colleagues working on the symbiote suit as a 'cure for cancer'/'deadly biological weapon'.
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Post by Devo DrakeFox on Jul 21, 2012 18:32:15 GMT
Saw it today with a friend. Garfield's Spidey is superior to Maguire in every way... except for the costume itself, I think it looks a bit naff. :/ But everything else, the geekery, the quips... beautiful!
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Post by Samface on Jul 21, 2012 21:41:10 GMT
I prefer the new costume. Still looks a bit too fancy for something a teenager whipped up in his spare time, but hey. I read somewhere that the director stated the fella Connors was talking to at the end wasn't Norman Osborn. Can't remember where I read that though, so...
My only real quibble is that nothing was made of the infected SWAT guys but other than that this was the best superhero movie I've seen in yonks.
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Post by Badly-Drawn Manchild on Jul 21, 2012 22:23:28 GMT
Don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, but I didn't enjoy it as much as some of you guys clearly did. I'm not gonna say it was bad or anything, but to me it was just average. Boiler-plate. Run-of-the-mill. A competent film, but unremarkable, and suffering from a lot of the exact same problems that these "origin" stories always do. Plus I found myself wincing at the relationship between Peter and Gwen. While Gwen was a surprisingly likeable and entertaining character, and Andrew Garfield does a good job (at least up to a certain point), Peter practically forces himself on her when she discovers he's Spider-Man. That's out of the Edward Cullen school of romance (that comparison doesn't help when Garfield is done up to look like that ponce).
Plus, making a promise to your girlfriend's dying father, then deciding to break it a few scenes later? Not cool at all.
Honestly, I found Spider-Man in this movie to be a bit of a dick, and I must be the only person who found his quips annoying. I love light-hearted superheroes (hell, the pre-reboot Blue Beetle is probably my all-time favourite comic series), but most of the time I've found Spider-Man to be just obnoxious, and this film really didn't change my view of that.
Also, I wasn't convinced by the Lizard (not just with the bad CGI and what I felt was a bad design). We all know how he works as a Jekyll and Hyde-type villain, but I don't feel that came across well. Sure, you could argue that the Lizard came to dominate Connors' mind, but the way it was portrayed made the transition too abrupt; seriously, just one injection of the formula, and Connors becomes a complete nutcase). It could have been executed worse (hell, the first Raimi movie is proof that portraying an internal struggle on film is immensely difficult to make convincing), but I felt it could have been done better. I guess my biggest problem with the film was that it was another reboot. I'm no longer interested in the origins of superheroes, and stories as well-known as Spider-Man's don't need to be re-imagined or elaborated on. I'm more interested in where the character goes from there, and how they and the people around them change and develop over time. The mentality that nobody's interested in seeing cherished characters grow and change is what leads to crap like One More Day.
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Post by The Shad on Jul 25, 2012 19:09:49 GMT
Just back from it. I enjoyed it, a lot more than I thought I would. Not sure about letting the killer get away. It worked within the film, since it was all about loose ends, but I dunno. Did like that the thief gave him the milk, though.
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Post by Alex on Jul 26, 2012 21:16:45 GMT
^ Firstly, I prefer that they didn't have the confrontation between Peter and Uncle Ben's killer as it would have been far too close to what we'd seen before. What more could they have done with it that we didn't already see in Raimi's version? Secondly, Peter's chase for him is what really teaches him about power and responsibility - and that revenge will only lead to a bad path. Although it's pretty obvious that they'll probably bring him back and throw him up against Spidey eventually just for the ensuing drama of that moment. Let's just hope it doesn't end with him turning into Hydro Man or something dumb like that...
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