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Post by Samface on Jan 28, 2011 11:56:32 GMT
Or the NGP, as it currently likes to be known.According to Penny Arcade, the first PSP has sold something like 60 million units? I had no idea! I thought it was an actual failure, as opposed to "only looks like a failure if you compare it to the DS's slightly silly sales figures".
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Post by Sin on Jan 28, 2011 13:06:11 GMT
I know it's big in Japan. The PSP has like a crazy big following out there, it outsold the Wii last year or last month or last-some frame of time I can't remember. I blame Monster Hunter, they love that game. If you're a monster then Japan's probably the last place you want to go.
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Post by madhair60 on Jan 28, 2011 13:22:17 GMT
Then why do they keep smashing Tokyo up? Didn't think that one through, did you Sin?
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Post by Beeth on Jan 28, 2011 13:43:36 GMT
I got a PSP a few years ago, bought a load of games to begin with. Then that came to a sudden halt when folk all but stopped producing for the console.
Mind you, got a pre-owned copy of "Prinny" back in December. First PSP game I'd bought in over a year at that point.
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Post by lordgazza on Jan 28, 2011 17:40:16 GMT
Sony what was the point in giving it a code name when it is clearly the psp2 you we know we know it , cut the crap.
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Post by Baron Canier on Jan 28, 2011 18:15:53 GMT
If you're a monster then Japan's probably the last place you want to go. The irony! |
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Post by ShayMay on Jan 28, 2011 18:45:51 GMT
Sony what was the point in giving it a code name when it is clearly the psp2 you we know we know it , cut the crap. Hey man... ...unwaaiiind yo'self.  Powerful as a PS3? Nice, although I'm sure I'll be forgiven for being slightly skeptical. Still, I won't be picking this up as I'm a Nintendo fanboy with a raging stiffy for Mario I didn't really like the games catalogue on the first one. There was very, very little that interested me. Also, nice to see Flash storage becoming the norm for game purchases, although I hope there's some allternative way of getting the data on the drive for those without the internet. Either that, or I've got the wrong end of the stick. >_> |
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Post by lordgazza on Jan 28, 2011 18:56:17 GMT
Sony what was the point in giving it a code name when it is clearly the psp2 you we know we know it , cut the crap. Hey man... ...unwaaiiind yo'self. Powerful as a PS3? Nice, although I'm sure I'll be forgiven for being slightly skeptical. Still, I won't be picking this up as I'm a Nintendo fanboy with a raging stiffy for Mario I didn't really like the games catalogue on the first one. There was very, very little that interested me. Also, nice to see Flash storage becoming the norm for game purchases, although I hope there's some allternative way of getting the data on the drive for those without the internet. Either that, or I've got the wrong end of the stick. >_> Shay, I respect your reference to Jungle Book. But seriously this isn't a new product in the sense that it isn't Sony's first portable system so what was the point in giving it a codename when its obviously going to be called the psp2 or something to that effect. |
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Post by Beeth on Jan 28, 2011 18:58:15 GMT
Possibly to hide the fact they were developing a PSP2 from public eyes? That would make sense.
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Post by lordgazza on Jan 28, 2011 19:06:26 GMT
Possibly to hide the fact they were developing a PSP2 from public eyes? That would make sense. That would be understandable during development, but when they revealed it what is the point in keeping the codename. Besides when it was leaked a few weeks in advance there was more of a reason not to bother with the codename. |
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Post by ShayMay on Jan 28, 2011 19:10:13 GMT
Nah, I agree with you, actually, they should probably just call it the PSP2, unless they throw us a curveball and this is actually a toaster.  I know you weren't, but your post read like you were going crazy over it. So I stuck King Louie there. D: |
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Post by lordgazza on Jan 28, 2011 19:18:27 GMT
Nah, I agree with you, actually, they should probably just call it the PSP2, unless they throw us a curveball and this is actually a toaster. I know you weren't, but your post read like you were going crazy over it. So I stuck King Louie there. D:Nah then they would be accused of blatantly copying nintendo(again) with the NinToaster. Well, lets just say they would be getting a strongly worded letter mate if it was. By strongly world letter I of course refer to a letter bomb. Hey its cool daddieo after all, "I'm the king of the swingers oooooh the jungle VIP!" |
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Post by Sam on Jan 29, 2011 8:42:20 GMT
Then why do they keep smashing Tokyo up? Didn't think that one through, did you Sin? Revenge. |
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Post by Samface on Mar 11, 2011 12:06:06 GMT
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Post by Alex on Mar 11, 2011 12:10:44 GMT
Don't see why it would affect anything, to be honest. Skyrim's out the same day, afterall.
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Post by rj on Mar 11, 2011 12:33:04 GMT
I'll wait for the games announced to move beyond ports of PS3 titles I already own before I pass judgement on whether or not I'll be picking this up near the launch window; the problem is that with no UMD support I'm not going to really be able to give a [censored] about any of the PSP's legacy titles, of which there were fewer than ten that really stood out (admittedly, they're utterly fantastic regardless).
I'll buy one eventually, but the lineup is what's going to ultimately determine if I wait for a pricedrop.
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Post by Samface on Mar 11, 2011 14:43:23 GMT
Don't see why it would affect anything, to be honest. Skyrim's out the same day, afterall. Oh, okay. Never mind then. Go about your business. |
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Post by Balls on Mar 12, 2011 8:34:33 GMT
If this is backwards compatable I'm gonna need one. Left my PSP on the bus on Thursday and I have literally never been this annoyed with myself.
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Post by Alex on Mar 12, 2011 12:31:17 GMT
If this is backwards compatable I'm gonna need one. Left my PSP on the bus on Thursday and I have literally never been this annoyed with myself. No UMD drive means that unless the online PSP store magically turns around to being not [censored], you're out of luck for the most part. The NGP interests me, but I have four concerns: 1) The name is currently ridiculous. Even if they change it to a proper name by launch, the fact that they came out in public with the name 'NGP' when we are all well aware that it's just the PSP2 is just really annoying. I wouldn't mind if it were a cool name, but NGP is an ugly and awkward name and I hope to God they have something better in store for launch. 2) The software library is... worrying. There were very few studios named as supporting the NGP when it was revealed - one of the biggest in the world, EA, didn't even know about the system. The PSP's biggest weakness is that it just never picked up steam in the software department. If anything, it blew its load in the first 2 years of its life and has been trundling slowly onwards with about one major release a year since. The NGP sounds worryingly close to repeating history. It looks even worse in comparison to the huge slew of studios that had their names tied to the 3DS last E3. 3) The thing is built like a tank. Wow it's huge. I mean, the first PSP is no slouch in the size department, but this is like the PSP XL. I think I'd definitely have to wait for the NGP-2000 or Go or whatever. The fact that, by then, the software library could have dried up because of more people doing the same thing and the whole history repeating itself thing... well, that's both worrying AND annoying. It's pretty much where I walked into the PSP, only to find that support for it was just falling away. 4) The price. Oh my dear God, the price. People thought the 3DS was taking the piss - but there just isn't any way this thing can come out for less than £300-£350. The price was a major factor in putting people off the PS3, and it could do the same here. I could probably put the money together to get one - but as far as I'm concerned, it's not as safe an investment into a large library of great software as the 3DS is. It's just too much of a risk. For these reasons, there's just no real way I could justify picking this up at launch. I'm a tech-[censored] and like shiny new things, but I'm honestly not sure that will be enough in this case. It seems like it should be a case of wait and see for a year or so, and keep an eye out for what support it gets software wise - but if I'm not the only one doing that, it could very well be a case that the hardware and software just don't do well enough to make the system enough of a greater success over the PSP to avoid the same software issues as before... |
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Post by Balls on Mar 12, 2011 14:01:44 GMT
2) The software library is... worrying. There were very few studios named as supporting the NGP when it was revealed - one of the biggest in the world, EA, didn't even know about the system. The PSP's biggest weakness is that it just never picked up steam in the software department. If anything, it blew its load in the first 2 years of its life and has been trundling slowly onwards with about one major release a year since. The NGP sounds worryingly close to repeating history. It looks even worse in comparison to the huge slew of studios that had their names tied to the 3DS last E3.
Then, we get Metal Gear Solid 4 and Uncharted and such, which, admittedly, are extremely impressive games, but then the rest of the library could easily be done on the much less powerful 360, which sensibly runs on Windows and was easy as piss to develop for.
PS3's still suffering now. It's picked up a Hell of a lot recently- it's catching up on the 360's sales and its library of big-name exclusives is finally as large as that of the 360, the multi-platform games are no longer have a noticeable difference in polish between PS3 and 360, the price is reasonable, and it's definitely established itself a decent market.
However, it still suffers. No matter how many sales it's just about managed up until now, the thing was so expensive to develop that I believe they lost more money with the PS3 than they made with the PS1 and 2 combined. With a little more accessibility for both developers and consumers, the PS3 could have very easily dominated the market and turned a profit like they have in the past.
It's surprising seeing how the PS3 turned out. It was incredibly hard to believe a few years ago that it wouldn't demolish all competition based on it carrying the PlayStation name alone after the PS2's ridiculous success. Thing is, the PS2 delivered and justified its popularity, whereas there really aren't that many reasons to own a PS3 over a 360.
So, basically, repeating the process exactly with the PSP2 is an unforgivably stupid chain of decisions. It's unfortunate to see what was once the brand that carried the largest variety of games, having something for everyone and delivering huge lists of excellent games that were just a part of such a vast library, all the while being affordable and accessible become what Sony have decided to make it now: the elitist brand for serious gamers, leading the way in monstrous powerful technology. Really, the 360/PS3 relationship has completely shifted in almost every conceivable way since last gen.
With all that in mind and Sony not showing any signs of learning from their mistakes, it looks highly unlikely that they will be the ones to finally topple Nintendo off of their thrown at the top of the handheld market any time in the foreseeable future. |
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