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Post by madhair60 on Jun 8, 2011 17:59:10 GMT
Controller doesn't look very ergonomic, especially for extensive gaming. Does it have shoulder buttons, and how would they work?
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Post by Blizz on Jun 8, 2011 18:32:03 GMT
Yep, and two triggers.
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Post by Baron Canier on Jun 8, 2011 19:57:31 GMT
The twin screen thing is possibly going to prove problematic, given that if anything crucial were to happen on one screen while looking at another you'd be in deep [censored]. The DS is all but entirely exempt from such problems because the screens are right beside one another and even a half-glance out the corner of your sleep-deprived eyes will alert you to something, whereas with the WiiU (which is easily the most idiotic console name ever) the screens are far apart and you can only pay attention to one screen at a time.
Having said that, looking forward to what the console is capable of.
(The 3DS can just sod off. Dedicating an entire handheld to the rubbish gimmick that is 3D is really annoying me)
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Post by Retro on Jun 8, 2011 22:23:40 GMT
So far as I've seen/heard you can only run one of the new controllers on it at a time. I doubt this is true, but if it is then Nintendo's dropped an atom bombs worth of a ball right there.
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Post by Badly-Drawn Manchild on Jun 9, 2011 14:21:36 GMT
So far as I've seen/heard you can only run one of the new controllers on it at a time. I doubt this is true, but if it is then Nintendo's dropped an atom bombs worth of a ball right there. It's like Virus said though; the processing power needed to render multiple displays plus the HD display on the TV would be absolutely insane, and I could definitely see these controllers being stupidly expensive if sold separately. I think those reasons for only allowing one of the new controllers to run are understandable, but it's still sad to hear as it kills a lot of possibilities. |
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Post by Retro on Jun 9, 2011 16:13:35 GMT
It's more that you'de be unable to play anything with local co-op/split screen/local multiplayer. At all.
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Post by Alex on Jun 9, 2011 17:41:27 GMT
It's more that you'de be unable to play anything with local co-op/split screen/local multiplayer. At all. There'll probably be a standard, screenless controller available to buy separately. You don't necessarily need both players to have their own screen. Although, if it were capable of it, it'd be mind blowing. Maybe a compromise could even be made for a second player using a 3ds. It wouldn't be the same kind of interface as player one could get, but it would allow player 2 to have their own map or whatever. The 3ds is certainly capable of a fair amount through download play. |
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Post by ShayMay on Jun 12, 2011 23:28:59 GMT
Alex is psychic: confirmed.One WiiU controller per console, but Wiimotes to be used as extra controllers, with the potential for the 3DS being used as well. 'Snot a problem, really - the console and games will obviously be designed with this in mind, and I don't tend to play multiplayer anyway - it's very rare for me to play someone of a similar skill level. And at least I won't have to pay extra for multiplayer.
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Post by Retro on Jun 13, 2011 2:07:50 GMT
...that doesn't remove the problem one little bit.
So there is only one dual stick controller for the entire console available. All these "multiplatform" games are designed around said concept. The Wii U makes local multiplayer impossible for them.
It needs an alternate controller to allow games to be played between friends, as Alex suggested. Not a "hand down" like a Wiimote. Another identical method.
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Post by madhair60 on Jun 13, 2011 7:48:04 GMT
So, everyone would use Wiimotes, then? Or similar attachments, such as the classic controller? As they do with the Wii? Seems fine. Retro, you're jumping the gun a tad. It's a given that they'll provide an alternate dual-stick. It's Nintendo, they can charge out the ass for extra pads, remember? Edit:  My hands hurt just looking at this. |
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Post by Alex on Jun 13, 2011 8:58:18 GMT
It doesn't help that the hands are shooped on (as they always are in these shots, they're provided as PSDs in their assets library and you can actually remove the layer with the arms if you like to just show the console). The bottom bit is actually a lot further 'in' than it looks like in that image, so your hands will rest on it naturally.
No-one that's used it has had any real complaint about its shape or size. Especially now most people are getting used to holding things that are even more unweildly, like an iPad, anyways.
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Post by madhair60 on Jun 13, 2011 9:10:14 GMT
No-one that's used it has had any real complaint about its shape or size. Not a single person!? Lawdy lawdy, it's like I've died and gone to argumentum ad populum fanboy hell. Edit: I just realised something. Wii U uses same touchscreen tech as NDS. Looks like a DS bottom screen. TOP SCREEN ON TELLY!?!?1/1///1///? DS ON TV?!?!!?? IT'S MORE LIKELY THAN YOU THINK |
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Post by Alex on Jun 13, 2011 9:22:58 GMT
Ok then, I've seen a lot of reports from people using it, and none of them have had any complaints. If it were such a massive issue, I'd think at least one of them would have mentioned something, wouldn't you? In fact, almost all seemed to go out of their way to say how much more comfortable to hold it was than it looked.
Unless every single one of them is set to wake up with a Wii U in their stocking this year, hand delivered by ReggieClaus, I seriously doubt they're just making it up.
Your personal experience may not be able to be defined for a long while yet, so whether you find it comfortable or not will obviously not be determined for some time. But the people using it seem to be giving it a thumbs up right now, and that's good enough for me to belay any concerns I may have until I get a chance to give it a go myself.
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Post by madhair60 on Jun 13, 2011 9:30:48 GMT
Your personal experience may not be able to be defined for a long while yet, so whether you find it comfortable or not will obviously not be determined for some time. But the people using it seem to be giving it a thumbs up right now, and that's good enough for me to belay any concerns I may have until I get a chance to give it a go myself. Oh yeah, absolutely. It doesn't look comfortable but naturally, I'll judge it when I hold one myself. Just gotta work with what I'm given so far. Or maybe it really is just me who can't use a mk 2 PSP for more than about a half hour before the pain sets in. |
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Post by Balls on Jun 13, 2011 12:52:26 GMT
Or maybe it really is just me who can't use a mk 2 PSP for more than about a half hour before the pain sets in. |
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