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Post by modochi on Aug 19, 2013 21:05:56 GMT
The cynical jerk in me expects Disney to not care about the books, novels and massive extended universe works and just give us another run of the mill Sci-Fi movie with flashy sword fights and a princess in need of rescuing. Oh, and there'll be another annoying Jar Jar Binks character and fuzzy animals. So pretty much the original trilogy then. Only this time it will have that special Disney touch, so expect it to be aimed even more at younger kids.
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Post by modochi on Aug 19, 2013 21:09:10 GMT
The cynical jerk in me expects Disney to not care about the books, novels and massive extended universe works To be fair this is exactly Lucas said would need to happen for the third trilogy to happen. I think. I have this weird theory, that if Lucas had stopped the entire expanded universe from happening, he wouldn't have been stuck trying to fit the prequel trilogy into the series while keeping true to what has been written. An active fandom is a good thing, but when you start to say that what's written in the novels is canon, then you're pretty much building a giant wall for you to struggle with when you make the next movie.
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Post by mikescrase on Nov 9, 2013 23:24:31 GMT
Welp. I didn't Star Wars hard enough yesterday. I showed up an hour early and the line for the auditions still curled all over the habourside side and out into the street. So basically I've been sleeping through the day and will be Star Warsing even harder tonight.
My thoughts on this movie are: if I'm in it, I'll like it.
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Post by Zerolus on Feb 18, 2014 20:38:05 GMT
And the amount of [censored]s I give is a big fat zero.
EDIT: ... Okay, it's been a couple of years, and newer members are probably wondering why the hell I would even post that, so I'll elaborate.
I used to pretty passionate about Star Wars a long time ago, but I've stopped caring a while back. Mostly because of how convulted the franchise (notably the expanded universe) is, and the bloody fanbase (madhair's competely right, by the way. [censored] hell, I think I used to be like that).
Now it's not as though I just stopped liking Star Wars: I have a fond place for it in my heart. Some of favourite stories and video games have come from the EU, (Darth Bane and Darth Plagueis novels, Jedi Knight II etc.) I just found myself moving on from caring in which direction the franchise is taken, for better or worse.
I do kinda wonder what would happen to the EU with Disney taking the helm, I suppose everything after Episode VI would be rendered non-canon, right? But most fans have yet to ask themselves on wether something's canon or not makes any real material difference.
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Post by Zerolus on May 30, 2014 18:18:14 GMT
So, apparently (for anyone who cares), the entire EU up until now has been effectively rendered non-canon. All of it.Huh. Can't say I saw that coming. I'm not angry about this, because it's not like they're pretending the EU never existed; it's still being acknowledged (just in a different way), and I think most EU authors will be content, as long as their work is still there to be enjoyed. And frankly, this might be a good thing: the EU had been getting increasingly convoluted and controversial over the years (despite the writers attempts at being respectful as possible to each others work), particularly the post-ROTJ stories. A reboot might very well be what it needed. On the other hand, I can kinda understand where some of the more outraged fans are coming from: Years of investment, only to be told, "No, that never actually happened," is a bit of slap to the face. There's also the fact that there are some stories which fit perfectly as part of the saga, and there's no need for them to be re-written (i.e. the first Darth Bane novel, in addition to Darth Plagueis, which I'd highly recommend to anyone who has even a passing interest in Star Wars). But, what the hell, even if the entire history gets re-written and it's totally terrible, at least I'll still have my old favourites as part of my personal canon. And anyone who tells me otherwise can go shove it. As for what the future holds, can't say any of the upcoming tales are of particular interest to me ('cept maybe the Tarkin novel). But apprently Star Wars: Rebels will have Greg Weisman as an executive producer, so that could be something to keep an eye on, depending on how much creative input he has.
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Post by ShayMay on May 30, 2014 19:41:29 GMT
It's something I've been doing some thinking about recently.
Honestly, I've decided that 'canon', 'continuity', and alternate universes... just don't really mean anything to me anymore. I can hardly think of a successful franchise that doesn't have more than one version of the same story being told that is ostensibly incompatible with other versions. So I've just decided to treat them all as stories.
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Post by Zerolus on May 31, 2014 22:23:06 GMT
It's something I've been doing some thinking about recently. Honestly, I've decided that 'canon', 'continuity', and alternate universes... just don't really mean anything to me anymore. I can hardly think of a successful franchise that doesn't have more than one version of the same story being told that is ostensibly incompatible with other versions. So I've just decided to treat them all as stories. Exactly. I believe originally the term was invented to just distinguish the officially-licensed material from the fanfiction (or at least avoid confusion when a tale didn't fit within a chronology or etc). But somewhere over the years people believed 'canon' was some kind of absolute that determined a story's merit. Which is ridiculous.Regardless of there being an 'official' canon or not, Disney (and license holders of other franchises, while I'm at it) don't actually care what the fans think. Once it's public, it's the fans who own the story, and they're free to accept or ignore any different versions at their own leisure. Just because a story never 'happened' doesn't mean it has less value.
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Post by Alex on May 31, 2014 23:11:48 GMT
The kerfuffle over this has confused me massively.
The EU stuff isn't being taken away and buried in the desert for no-one to ever see ever again, it's only being relabelled with an official brand. Anything that Lucasfilm put out is what is 'canon' and never has been beholden to the EU and never would be. No-one seriously thought that Episodes VII, VIII and IX were just going to be rehashed adaptations of the EU books, so literally nothing has changed.
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Post by ShayMay on Jun 1, 2014 12:40:02 GMT
But somewhere over the years people believed 'canon' was some kind of absolute that determined a story's merit. Which is ridiculous.That's a really concise way of putting it. 
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Post by rj on Aug 8, 2019 7:08:53 GMT
it was good but last jedi was way better
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