Characters you'd like to see

[Mango]

CAP'N PLUNDER

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*shuts up*

[Robert Frazer]

*Rather than wade through yet another of Robert's incomprehensible and unnecessary preambles, the entire forum troops out of the chamber to the refectory for a five-course banquet whilst he preaches to an empty room*

I am bewildered, astounded, astonished, perplexed, flummoxed, dumbfounded, puzzled, intrigued and confounded to an immense magnitude as to how the veritable entirety of this most estimable forum, despite its fanatical substantiation of our conjoined endorsement of the legacy of Sonic the Comic, could possibly conduct - whether through a concerted, malign intent or simply dreadful ignorance - a sheer disrespectful travesty of omission...

*Three hours elapse. The forum saunters back into the chamber, and Ed, Retrogamer, Chaos X3 and Sin Scorpion smile, nod, and applaud indulgently*

I am - to state my disposition succinctly - absolutely disgusted and repulsed that none of you have countenanced reintroducing two mighty Titans of anthropomorphised heroes. Although naught is capable of eclipsing Sonic's radiant glory, they themselves burn with the furious conflagration of majesty...

Who am I speaking of?

Why, none other than those immortal proponents of truth, justice, C.B.B.C. and London pillar-boxes, Danger Mouse and Captain Bucky O'Hare!

*Retrogamer abruptly chokes upon his tea in shock and collapses into a spasming, convulsing heap as his lips become shaded in a delicate purple. Ed is instantaeneously poleaxed and requires smelling salts to revive him to clemency. Sin Scorpion leaps up and cries out in alarm:

"Robert being frivolous?!"

-before stapling him to the wall with a hurried fist of shuriken so that he cannot escape whilst Chaos X3 rushes to a telephone to section Robert under the Mental Health Act*

[Zerolus]

Erm, Rob, those two guys never appeared in STC. This is a thread about which characters who appered in STC, but havn;t been seen again, coming back onto STC-O. Still, that post was funny.
*laughs at the "being stapled to the wall" bit*

[Tom]

F#%* Bucky O Hare. Do you know where he came from? A toy manufacturer who couldn't believe they'd had the Turtles in their very hands and thrown them away. Bucky was their utterly shallow attempt to cash in on the success Turtles found elsewhere and it was a disasterous flop.

A crash course in why toy companies should stay away from making their own fiction.

[Admin Droid]

Tom said:

F#%* Bucky O Hare. Do you know where he came from? A toy manufacturer who couldn't believe they'd had the Turtles in their very hands and thrown them away. Bucky was their utterly shallow attempt to cash in on the success Turtles found elsewhere and it was a disasterous flop.

Yeah, but Bucky was much cooler. Better stories, better designs, better ideas all around. Now, I liked Turtles, and I collected the Archie comics and enjoyed them, but cartoon for cartoon Bucky was far superior. And let's face it, it's not the first derivative concept and the way it was pulled off owed a lot more to science fiction than it remotely did to the Turtles.

Bucky was a class act.

[Feniiku]

I'd like to see Shadow myself, I know that he's appeared once. Anyway, I heard a rumor that Shadow may not be kept for long.... Please verify, because I'd like to know for sure.

And if he is killed I won' be too happy.

Kuh, I also agree with wanting to see Cream in the comic, and the Sonic Heroes Meatl Sonic, at least for one story.

Ahh well. And I'd like to see Emerl and the Chaotix!

[pachamac]

Personally, I'd like to see Pachamac return as well as the ancient Echidnas in some form. At least in a vision.

[Tom]

It's Pachacamac... or Pochacamac, depending on which spelling you agree with.

(Nigel Kitching accidentally misspelt it on his scripts. At least he didn't spell Tikal with a 'c'.)

[Admin Droid]

Feniiku said:

I'd like to see Shadow myself, I know that he's appeared once. Anyway, I heard a rumor that Shadow may not be kept for long.... Please verify, because I'd like to know for sure.

He'll be around for one large ongoing story arc. Since I'm not going to reveal the ending, you'll just have to wait and see what happens after that.

[Samface]

Ed said:

Bucky was a class act.

Seconded. Me and my friend Phil used to break into spontaneous performances of the theme song during lunch in primary school. Good times.

[Sin]

Ed said:

Bucky was a class act.

Thirded, I used to have the game for the NES and for a game of that time it was very good.

[madhair60]

In another dimension
Another time and place
A parallel universe was falling on its face
When out of the chaos
Who else could it be
But the animal adventurer from S.P.A.C.E!

BUCKY!

Captain Bucky O'Hare!
Mutants and aliens and toads beware!
You're looking for adventure? Well, this is it,
With Jenny, Deadeye, Blinky, and Willy DuWitt

I said Bucky! Captain Bucky O'Hare!

“And now, an update on Bucky O'Hare and the Toad Wars!”

In the battle of the aniverse, you don't know what's next
You only know amphibians have made it KOMPLEX!
When you check out your scanner and the evil that it bodes,
There's only one course of action: Let's croak us some toads!

Bucky!

Captain Bucky O'Hare!

He goes where no ordinary rabbit would dare!
If your Righteous Indignation has suffered a hit
And your photon accelerator's broken a bit
And you're losing your mind, and you're having a fit
Get the funky fresh rabbit who can take care of it!

Bucky! Captain Bucky O'Hare!
You say Bucky? I said Bucky!
Bucky O'Hare!
Let's croak us some toads!


All from memory. I have a life.

[ChaosX3]

Ed said:

Bucky was a class act.

Fourthed. I recently saw some of his old shows and couldn't help but download the theme song from Kazaa.

[Tom]

What kind of stupid name is Bucky?

[Zak29]

Apparently it was based on some underground comic. (the art was incredible!!)

[Admin Droid]

Tom said:

What kind of stupid name is Bucky?

Buck-toothed? No stupider than most of the names on Sonic (Doctor Eggman/Robotnik anyone?).

Besides, there is one hilariously funny cartoon Bucky that I commend to everyone:

www.comics.com/comics/getfuzzy/archive/getfuzzy-20040620.html

[Robert Frazer]

Bucky was a class act.

Here is a condundrum for the practitioners of linguism on this board to wrestle with - if I substantiate this, am I 'fifthing' it or am I 'halving' it, considering that I myself raised the situation intially? ;D

Apparently it was based on some underground comic. (the art was incredible!!)

Ah yes, how could I neglect to recall that astounding and remarkable Captain Bucky O'Hare comic? I may only have been six to eight years old when I was perusing it, but several scenes are quite firmly and resolutely imprinted, scored and impounded upon my memory. An assortment include:

-Blinky, the cyclopean robot of diminutive proportions, shrieking, keening and wailing "woe and calamity!" at any and all situations of danger the cast inadvertantely entangled themselves in.

-Deadeye confiscates DuWitt's water-pistol as a "dangerous sidearm" (in fact, it could constitute quite a lethal weapon - do I remember correctly that he once destroyed a gloiath-sized robot by squirting water into its maw in the cartoon series?), and Captain Bucky congratulates his subordinate with "good thinking".

-Jenny and Deadeye are trapped in the bowels of the Toad behemoth-dreadnaught. They have commandeered a Toad fighter to escape, yet a blast door interdicts them from establishing their liberty... until the Toads pursuing them on the other side of the threshold, with an immense proportion of charity and altruism, break it down for them!

-The omnipotent mouse that was the subject of its inaugeral six-issue arc transports the Toad crew of their behemoth, an instant before it implodes spectacularlry, "to a safe place where the food is bad and the taxes high". All praise and glory be to Thatcherist comics!

Intrigued by these impulsions of memory, I conducted a brief investigation of my dust-smothered and decaying mounds of old magazines lurking in my cupboards in an endeavour to claim an old issue. Regrettably, my inspection was futile, but I did discover a wealth of various publications such as Beano-imitations such as Beezer and Buster; The New Thunderbirds; An exceedingly maltreated copy of Mean Machines Sega; Transformers the Comic; The Official Playsta- WHAT IN THE NAME OF THE LORD... how did that infiltrate there? That foul and putrescent atrocity is on a prompt trajectory to the rubbish bin!; A copy of 2000 A.D.; An American "Sonic Times" leaflet advertising the release of NiGHTS Into Dreams; a copy of the children's edition of The Swiss Family Robinson; Photocopies from old issues of White Dwarf; A graphic novel of the 2000 A.D. series, Armoured Gideon.

Quite an extensive array of juvenile history, wouldn't you agree?

Either way, are we neglecting that truly superlative and majestic propounder of morality and crime-suppression?

Danger Mouse!
Powerhouse!
He's the fastest,
He's the quickest,
He's the best!

Danger Mouse!

Danger Mouse!

DANGER MOOOOOOOOUUU - *Gasp* -UUUUSSSSSSSEEEEEEEE! (Bomb detonates, demolishing half of the building).

*The attendant paramedic promptly thrusts Robert back onto the trolley as he is wheeled into the ambulance, screaming for a liberal dose of "sanity drugs"*

Now, personally I would perceive this to comprise quite a sufficient magnitude of friviolity and joviality from me, and I would best return to my dour, humourless self before my reputation for obscene magnitudes of verbosity and so forth is tarnished, and I commence babbling about Captain Simian and the Space Monkeys However, if you are desperate to learn more of this intrepid cartoon character, a Google search exposed this site to me:

www.geocities.com/bohweb/index.htm

[Samface]

Robert said:

An exceedingly maltreated copy of Mean Machines Sega

You rock.

[WAW the Zonerunner]

*off topic-y goodness*

Ed said:

Bucky was a class act.

Chalk down another person who agrees. ^_^

*/off topic-y goodness*

I agree with retrogamer in that there's so many old characters from the comic that'd be great to turn up again, not to mention a few of those from the newer games, I fear the comic may get too crowded...
I kinda side with Ed and say that maybe StC-O will benefit more if we avoid too many new characters and work on the existing ones. (Having a small centeral cast always was StC's strongest point IMO)

They are a nice idea, but I think it's best to keep the other StC Super/hyper characters to the fanfics. Whilst I do like the idea of an StC version of characters like Knuckles and Tails, having more of them would end up undermining Super Sonic and the impact he has on the comic.

If Metalix is to return, it would be best if it was the newest/current version, especally with StC-O trying to remain in continunity.

I freely admit I'd love to see Grimer again, I thought him giving up on Robotnik was a mini-cliffhanger in itself when it happened. What will he be doing now?

Whilst it would be nice to throw in the newer characters from the games like Cream and the E robots, I'd perfer if they're done in a new angle than before, see if they can be made more interesting/in a different light.

[mobiusman]

What the hell has happened to this thread? Bucky O hare?

[Admin Droid]

So wait... was the UK comic the comic of the cartoon of the comic, or was it the original? Because that was a mighty fine comic. Shame I only found a few issues.

Mobiusman: Well, I wouldn't worry too much. It occurs to me, scarily, that you probably weren't born when Bucky first hit out screens. Which is weird...

Pretending to be on topic... I also can't wait to do Grimer. But he has to be done right. And he's someone to save for a rainy day methinks. But I have very specific ideas for him.

[Daniel Jones -(GRIMER)-]

Bucky O' Hare was the Bee's Knees. But funny enough my favorite characters were the Bad guys *Crowd sighs*

Who remebers that Cyborg-Toad who was like a Big Bad Darth Vader? Everytime he came to the Toad General's ship all the Toads would be scared tiff!

And what about the mysterious Master the Toads served? I never saw who he was, but he was always shadowed in the darkness, if I remember rightly, with those Red beaming eyes staring outwards at you!

Ed said:

Pretending to be on topic... I also can't wait to do Grimer. But he has to be done right. And he's someone to save for a rainy day methinks. But I have very specific ideas for him.

Hey, I recently jotted down some ideas for a Grimer Returns fic. How about we do share ideas and write the story? I don't mind having to wait years before seeing it up on STC-Online, but I think I can say that I AM THE RESIDENT GRIMER NUT HERE!

[Admin Droid]

Sorry, I know exactly what I want to do with Grimer for his first five appearances. The first got two thumbs up from Richard Elson.

[Robert Frazer]

One factor I would be sincerely heartened to witness in future editions of Sonic the Comic a more substantial emphasis and focus upon anti-heroes[/u].

Entities such as Cam and Bert, Grimer, Commander Brutus, the Marxio Brothers, various D.R.A.T. adherents and their ilk were always highly invigorating and engrossing in areas where the comic threatened to flag.
Altough this cannot be said of Commander Brutus (who, it should be conceded, simply constituted a rather bland egoistical megalomaniac), they were frequently quite inventive and varied - they are usually forced to be, because a good-natured and optimistic comic such as Sonic the Comic couldn't have Zonerunners being pulverised to oblivion (although I certainly wished them to do so - Surely Robotnik could strike some blows against the rebels? *Malevolent cackle*), and thus the misadventures and travails of collaborators had to be expressed in quite unique, unusual and enjoyable manners - Cam and Bert's two adventures are prime exemplars of this.
Anti-heroes were always a refreshing alteration in misé en scene to witness events being described from the alternate perspective, rather than with the latest adversary simply constituting a vacuous and hollow target for Sonic's spin attacks to rebound off. Ed, illustrate more of Mobius's more fell and shadow-shrouded underbelly to us... and let them be successful!

Yes, I know that I'm morbid... when you've played Warhammer 40,000 for eight years, it becomes expected...

Another concept I would like to witness being reintroduced to the comic is that of the Drakon Empire... I have been quite intrigued about several aspects of Drakon culture, and one particularly prominent aspect of this is the role of the Prosecutors.
To my perceptions, Drakon Prosecutors can be much more than simply a potent shock-soldier for the military they they have tended to have been ignominiously relegated to ever since Dr. Robotnik was arrested in Flickies' Island. Rather, I can envisage a grand, stately, hallowed and awe-inspiring echelon of the Drakon social structure being rendered in tones very much similar to the Ordo Malleus, or the Grey Knights. This allusion may be futile if you don't play Warhammer 40,000, and so to ease the comparison here are some comic pages of the Grey Knights in operation:

Daemonifuge - Book III - Part I - Page VI
Daemonifuge - Book III - Part I - Page VII
Daemonifuge - Book III - Part I - Page VIII

A similar treatment would apply a great deal of variety to the Drakons. Consider - the imposing, solemn, imperturable, resolute and devoted custodians of Drakon law, their scope limitless and their power tremendous. Upon the sedulous direction of their regal Magistrates, Assize Bands of ruthless Prosecutors flicker about the breadth and depth of their multi-dimensional imperium and beyond its indistinguishable boundaries, in relentless pursuit of wretched and foolhardy miscreants - leaving only the retina-searing flash of a Warp Ring, a strnagled scream, and the occasional crater or corpse to indicate their presence as they haul traitors, heretics and felons alike to be subject to penance by the Judges in their incessant quest to maintain the purity of the pax amphibis.

And then, of course, chaos could ensue when some transgressors seek refuge on Mobius, a planet proscribed to them since their past debacles... how will the Magistrates equate a precedent for that?

[Admin Droid]

I'm not sure about anti-heroes exactly. I never found Cam and Bert as compelling as Brutus. I think there's a lot to be said for a truly menacing villain, if it's possible to pull one off. The vast majority of the prime threats to Sonic, from Robotnik to the Metallixes to Chaos, have been fairly unambigous. This doesn't necessary make them uncomplicated characters, or characters that aren't very interesting. They're just clearly evil.

But I love looking at shades of grey, of course. The first year of the comic has mostly been dedicated to quite clear heroes and villains, but if you notice, Sonic doesn't actually do an awful lot to affect his victories. "In the Heat of the Night" and "The Syndicate" both show the villains getting away. "RBR" and "The End of the World" show someone else responsible for the escape. In fact, Sonic hasn't really won the day outright by himself since "Splitzoid" -- Shortfuse dealt with Robotnik in "Game Over" and Super Sonic absorbed the energy of Chaos. Part of the aim of the following year is to show the kind of choices Sonic makes under pressure, and what kind of hero he is.