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Post by Ellie on Feb 18, 2004 20:29:12 GMT
hehehehehe we're everywhere at once, we know everything (c'mon, we have greenhill heaven, we must have some supernatural powers)
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Post by ChaosX3 on Feb 19, 2004 23:49:31 GMT
I voted Shadow- he's kick butt!
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Vector
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Post by Vector on Feb 22, 2004 21:04:07 GMT
how can you not vote for shadow
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Post by Knuckles on Feb 26, 2004 20:47:38 GMT
Hey Ellie i'm in greenhill remember too?
Anyway I think sonic is cooler cos he's the original and best
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Post by Ellie on Feb 26, 2004 20:50:58 GMT
yes, knuckles, wouldn't be greenhill heaven without you.
and I agree, Sonic's the best! Just because of everything about him being great. can never beat him.
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Post by madhair60 on Feb 27, 2004 14:33:47 GMT
Amy all th way, folks.
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Post by tailschao on Mar 1, 2004 16:46:37 GMT
SHADOW...only because I can't vote for tails...and tails was the reason I read stc...plus shadow is really really cool, and looks cool, sound cool, and is mysterious and has hove shoes and stripes!!!! ans wears my favourite set of colours!!
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Post by Knuckles on Mar 1, 2004 21:13:55 GMT
NO! Sonic best hedgehog
All contenders must die
*picks sword
Want to join me Ellie battle of the hedgehogs
This is why there almost extinct on our planet by the way they fight in the city park for survival
MAY THE BATTLE BEGIN
AND MAY THE BEST HEDGEHOG WIN AND FASTEST AND BLUEST AND COOLEST ETC.
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Post by Ellie on Mar 5, 2004 0:07:35 GMT
sorry, but me and knuckles gonna stick together here. Sonic is the original, Sonic's the best.
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Post by Sin on Mar 5, 2004 1:03:12 GMT
I guess I am going to have to argue the case for Shadow being cooler then Sonic. The whole reason that I like Shadow more can be said in one simple point.
Shadow has purpose!
Shadow adventures because he wants to find out about himself and his past, and most importantly what he is. Sonic has no purpose. He adventures simple because he enjoys it and he want to save the world, in which case makes him cliché beyond belief. Don't get me wrong, I like Sonic as a main character but I do find him very one dimensional.
I also just wanted to mention that Shadow isn't a clone of Sonic in looks. They may look similar (they are both hedgehogs for god sake), they shapes are very different. And Shadows abilities are totally original. I didn't see anyone being about to control chaos before SA2 and being able to bend reality like in Sonic Battle.
My last words are that I like Shadow as a character more then Sonic. But all this is just my opinion so everyone is intuited to there own.
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Post by madhair60 on Mar 5, 2004 10:35:54 GMT
Oop- You said Shadow. You have invoked my wrath.
"I guess I am going to have to argue the case for Shadow being cooler then Sonic. The whole reason that I like Shadow more can be said in one simple point.
Shadow has purpose!
Shadow adventures because he wants to find out about himself and his past, and most importantly what he is. Sonic has no purpose. He adventures simple because he enjoys it and he want to save the world, in which case makes him cliché beyond belief. Don't get me wrong, I like Sonic as a main character but I do find him very one dimensional."
Don't get me wrong, I'm not disagreeing with you because it's you, I just think you've got the roles reversed. Sonic's been doing his thing for 13 years and there's always a reason he goes adventuring. Whether it's rescuing his animal friends or preventing the Floating island from plummeting to destruction. The fact is he's the main character and when he was born, his game was a breath of fresh air in the wake of thousandsof slow-paced mario clones. Sonic put adrenaline into gaming. His speed inspired tens of thousands of kids to argue unstoppably over which console was better, SNES or Genesis (Megadrive).
The Megadrive's side of the argument was supported by three main games - Sonic 2, Mortal Kombat and Streets of Rage 2. The SNES was mainly supported by Super Mario World, Starwing and Street Fighter 2 Turbo.
Anyone who read gaming magazines (Game Zone, Sega Power, Super Play, Total!, Mean Machines Sega etc) during this era will remember the countless letters from readers campaigning their system's side, or the hundreds of pictures printed in Sega magazines depicting Sonic horrifically killing Mario. Nintendo mags? Same deal, names reversed.
Now, with the demise of Sega as a Console manufacturer, we have finally put those dark and hypocritical times behind us.
OK, I went off on a tangent there. I apologise. What I'm trying to get across is that Sonic inspired thousands, if not millions. Sure, Mario put out some awesome games, but he was never as commercially viable as Sonic. What would you rather have on your duvet as a kid? A fat plumber or a sleek hedghog with attitude (As he was then marketed)?
When Sonic turned 10, a new character was introduced, name of Shadow the hedgehog. I was disappointed when he turned out to be an "Evil Twin". Evil twin stories are the biggest sci-fi cliche there is, and I was sad that Sonic Team had to resort to one.
Sure, he looked cool and I loved the way he pelted down the slopes, hovering over the ground, but as a character he had a few fatal flaws.
This character was so arrogant he made me angry. When a character makes you unintentionally angry, the character has failed. Shadow was, to me, NOT a likeable villain.
In SA2, he had a backstory. People nowadays read far too much into this, when in reality it is a kid's game with a kid's plot. Everything ties up in the end. Shadow is killed. A certain Sonic fan rejoices.
Yes, Sonic the hedgehog frequently saves the world, but we know he's doing the right thing. This gies him charm. His reckless way and his cheeky mannerism give him appeal (For a perfect example of this, look to Sonic X, where he flings himself off a cliff for seemingly no reason, whooping with joy).
"I also just wanted to mention that Shadow isn't a clone of Sonic in looks. They may look similar (they are both hedgehogs for god sake), they shapes are very different."
Fair enough.
"And Shadows abilities are totally original. I didn't see anyone being about to control chaos before SA2 and being able to bend reality like in Sonic Battle."
I don't see him bending reality in Sonic Battle, but maybe I'm not looking hard enough. If you're talking about his "R" move, where he disappears and reappears whereever you put him, this is just Chaos control, travelling at a hgh speed by manipulating time then reappearing with a flash of light. he does it on the final Shadow boss on SA2.
Sure, his abilities are original in the Sonic series but as far as sci-fi as a whole goes... just no. Next we'll have Sonic frantically searching for replicants in a post-apocalyptic nightmare world.
"My last words are that I like Shadow as a character more then Sonic. But all this is just my opinion so everyone is intuited to there own."
I've had my two cents. You've had yours. I'm sure your view will be more popular and I'm sure there are gaping errors in mine. We'll just haveto wait and see.
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Post by madhair60 on Mar 8, 2004 11:52:59 GMT
SIGH, this is thinly disguised BUMP. I've killed a topic and all I did was post a long, aimless rant about a character I dislike. Suely SOMEONE can find a gaping flaw in my post?
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Vector
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Post by Vector on Mar 10, 2004 17:31:47 GMT
i say this...
if the cool mix of red and black aint enough his hopeless inocence captured by rouge and eggman turns him evil. if any1 has short term memory loss, you will know what it is like to be shadow. One min your the cool guy, dead from saving the universe, the next your another evil slag to rouge. I mean I picture shadow and omega as the big body guards with no intention or will and rouge the the slave driver *horrid mental pictures*
and I also say THNX A BUNCH FOR KILLING MY MOST POPULAR THREAD!
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Post by robotman7 on Mar 10, 2004 17:37:22 GMT
i say if youre asking who has the most cool it would be sonic but if you are asking who is cooler its got to be shadow the red and black are an amazing mix and he kicks serious butt
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Post by MechaShadow on Mar 10, 2004 21:13:47 GMT
Shadow, enough said.
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Post by Mighty Fan on Mar 10, 2004 21:17:00 GMT
For a while I liked Shadow better, but in Heros there seems to be something wrong, as if it isn't Shadow, (n I know it is a robot) he is lacking something, but before I make my decesion I wont to see how STCO does him.
P.S. Did anyone else notice that about Shadow in Heros?
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Post by madhair60 on Mar 10, 2004 21:29:33 GMT
i say if youre asking who has the most cool it would be sonic but if you are asking who is cooler its got to be shadow the red and black are an amazing mix and he kicks serious butt ...OK. So.... SOnic has the most cool but Shadow is cooler? And Vector, if noone responds, it's not my damn fault.
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Post by Vector on Mar 12, 2004 17:44:43 GMT
i think if you seen the end of heros, theres some kind of 'team robot' thing going. metal sonic, 123 and robot shadow. its one of those 'deep secrets' you know stuff you can never notic.
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