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Post by Tom on Aug 22, 2005 18:43:23 GMT
you wouldn't have to follow it to the letter (it's not perfectly consistent with her original introduction). I like the idea that she only really emerged after robotnik took over; lew introduced the pink thing as a catalyst for that. furthermore she never stated that she was in love with sonic, she was never portrayed as being soppy - she told people that she was sonic's girlfriend, and there is a marked difference, particularly when you consider that it wasn't true!! there's a lot of potential for storytelling there, you just need to know how to use it. why she was telling people she was sonic's girlfriend, for example. stc continuity is so flexible, I dont know why you're moaning, jamie.
as for tails' past, I thought it seemed consistent with the profile in sonic the summer special. not a great story I suppose but it wasn't going to be much better.
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Post by JJ on Aug 22, 2005 18:46:25 GMT
Yeah, I guess. I just prefer the notion that she was born pink.
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Post by Tom on Aug 22, 2005 18:50:26 GMT
like us you mean
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Post by JJ on Aug 22, 2005 18:53:56 GMT
Reminds me of a letter someone wrote in, asking how Knuckles turned red or something. Megadroids reply was something like "Um, because maybe he was born that way?" ;D
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Post by Ed on Aug 22, 2005 18:58:13 GMT
If you want to do an Amy origin story, I'd just ignore the continuity stuff. Of course it's good to keep the story broadly straight, you can always play fast and loose with things. Who is to say that Amy wasn't originally pink, turned brown in a freak accident and then was restored to her cooler colour by another explosion. Stranger things have happened in STC!
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Post by Lost Mercenary on Aug 22, 2005 19:03:30 GMT
One inconsistency I noticed in "Amy's secret part" was the fact that she was already freedom fighter on her own. But she wasn't actually fighting until around Issue 24. Before that she kept getting kidnapped either by Robotnik or Plunder.
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Post by Samface on Aug 22, 2005 19:09:35 GMT
One inconsistency I noticed in "Amy's secret part" It's an innuendo typo! An innuendpo!
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Post by JJ on Aug 22, 2005 19:19:54 GMT
One inconsistency I noticed in "Amy's secret part" It's an innuendo typo! An innuendpo! Quiet, you. Don't make me tie you down and inject you with things again.
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Post by Samface on Aug 22, 2005 19:24:25 GMT
Quiet, you. Don't make me tie you down and inject you with things again. You do realise I'ma have to sig that.
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Post by The Tikal who had no Toes on Aug 22, 2005 20:12:28 GMT
One inconsistency I noticed in "Amy's secret part" was the fact that she was already freedom fighter on her own. But she wasn't actually fighting until around Issue 24. Before that she kept getting kidnapped either by Robotnik or Plunder. Yeah, that is weird, considering that for several issues Amy was an annoying bimbo who was always getting into trouble, to the extent that Sonic remarked she should rent herself out as a professional hostage! She was far from the character she is now.
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Post by Mambo's Here! Look Busy! on Aug 22, 2005 22:16:16 GMT
I assumed Amy was brown like Sonic was until something happened to her to make her pink. Personally I dont see anything wrong with an ole vat 'o hair gel and a box 'o "B Pink"! XD The story itself was totally wrong IMO, coz it portrayed her as a toughie, whereas when she first appeared she was a girly girl that giggled at Sonics jokes(!). For me, her experience with Metallix and being stuck on the Miracle Planet was what changed her. I know that whos to say she wasnt a tomboy in the 1st place and just acted all damselly to get Sonic t rescue her and stuff, but something doesnt seem right there. I think that Amy started off in STC as the squealy little girl that Sega made her out to be and later as the comic progressed she defied that image. Either way, Id like to say to Jamie J that IMO, if you write something in someone elses "style", theres no harm in adding your own flair to it. Im sure theres a clever way to account for Lew's story as well as using your own ideas.
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Post by JJ on Aug 22, 2005 22:21:00 GMT
Thanks, Mambo.
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Post by Lost Mercenary on Aug 22, 2005 23:41:38 GMT
"Amy's Secret Past" should have covered how Amy lived before Robotniks take over and how she tried to survive and avoid being turned into a badnik and such and such when he eventually took power.
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Post by Raxadian on Aug 23, 2005 0:03:55 GMT
I assumed Amy was brown like Sonic was until something happened to her to make her pink. Personally I dont see anything wrong with an ole vat 'o hair gel and a box 'o "B Pink"! XD The story itself was totally wrong IMO, coz it portrayed her as a toughie, whereas when she first appeared she was a girly girl that giggled at Sonics jokes(!). For me, her experience with Metallix and being stuck on the Miracle Planet was what changed her. I know that whos to say she wasnt a tomboy in the 1st place and just acted all damselly to get Sonic t rescue her and stuff, but something doesnt seem right there. I think that Amy started off in STC as the squealy little girl that Sega made her out to be and later as the comic progressed she defied that image. Either way, Id like to say to Jamie J that IMO, if you write something in someone elses "style", theres no harm in adding your own flair to it. Im sure theres a clever way to account for Lew's story as well as using your own ideas. Dude, I’m not gonna explain a continuity error that is really obvious if you compare “Got pink” with the first stories with Amy in it. Download, read, THINK!
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Post by Mambo's Here! Look Busy! on Aug 23, 2005 10:17:19 GMT
ahem...dont call me dude, sunshine! If you read my post I actually wasnt asking anyone to explain so dont assume I was asking you! Anyways Amy first appeared in Girl Trouble I seem to remember....I havent seen "got pink" or whatever it is your on about.
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Post by Spudiator on Aug 23, 2005 13:27:03 GMT
lol@sunshine. It's years since I've heard someone call someone else that!
I assume Rax is referring to Robotnik's appearance in both issues, being that Amy's first ever appearance in STC coincided with Robotnik's change of appearance to match that of the cartoon series, the continuity error being that Robotnik was wearing his newer costume in the Amy's Secret Past story, even though he wouldn't have gone through his "change" yet. Been commented on and discussed already though.
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Post by Mambo's Here! Look Busy! on Aug 23, 2005 17:06:16 GMT
Ok then why didnt he say he was referring to Robotnik when he decided to have a dig at me. When did I mention Robotnik in my post? I was on about Amy but never mind. In this case Ill let it go but I will issue him just a word of warning: dont tell me how to think, ok? *flashes University degree*
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Post by Spudiator on Aug 23, 2005 19:50:26 GMT
A valid point Mambo, now chill out ya nutter! ;D
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Post by The Tikal who had no Toes on Aug 23, 2005 20:45:38 GMT
And that story was still lame. On the subject of female characters, I wish Tekno had had a solo spot. I liked the STC-O story where Robotnik ordered her to get Amy but she had an attack of conscience and buggered up her machine. Then Robotnik basically stabbed her in the back, she went to jail, and along came Shortfuse. Oh, and I'd like to add that ALL the stories with Windy Wallis in were even lamer. There were some great female baddies- Rouge and Metamorphia, to name but two - but she wasn't one of them.
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Post by Mambo's Here! Look Busy! on Aug 23, 2005 21:37:17 GMT
That was chilled!! Muahahahahahaaa.... That Sonic doing DIY wasnt that great either, and when he got that crate of Power Sneakers out all I could thing was "huh! I thought he had one pair that Kintobor made for him, not a whole crate made to order!" That and it wasnt that great a story either, but they mustve needed some filler stories while the better, bigger arc stories were being produced. Its the crap stories that make the good ones stand out! ^_^
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Post by Echinus on Aug 23, 2005 21:51:25 GMT
That was chilled!! Muahahahahahaaa.... I thought he had one pair that Kintobor made for him, not a whole crate made to order!...Its the poo stories that make the good ones stand out! ^_^ Maybe Kintobor was secretly a cobbler as well! A valid point about the stories, though.
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Post by Tom on Aug 23, 2005 23:37:05 GMT
That's just your perceptions of things. I don't see why both can't be true.
As far as I'm concerned the only really erroneous continuity in Amy's Secret Past is that Robotnik looks wrong, and I don't really care about that because it would otherwise have needed explanation where it just didn't fit.
edited to point out that this was written before I realised the topic had gone on to a third page.
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Post by Raxadian on Aug 24, 2005 0:57:19 GMT
That's just your perceptions of things. I don't see why both can't be true. As far as I'm concerned the only really erroneous continuity in Amy's Secret Past is that Robotnik looks wrong, and I don't really care about that because it would otherwise have needed explanation where it just didn't fit. edited to point out that this was written before I realised the topic had gone on to a third page. Is really interesting that you didn’t noticed Amy attitude in "Got pink", she is not the useless and "Oh I love Sonic and want to hug him" girl she was in her first appearances and if that is not a continuity error…Im millionaire.
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Post by Spudiator on Aug 24, 2005 9:35:35 GMT
In that case Rax, can you lend me a tenner?
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Post by Charles on Aug 24, 2005 13:25:38 GMT
Is really interesting that you didn’t noticed Amy attitude in "Got pink", she is not the useless and "Oh I love Sonic and want to hug him" girl she was in her first appearances You mean like when she managed to talk Captain Plunder & Sonic into making a mutually-beneficial partnership instead of fighting? Or fighting alongside the Freedom Fighters with considerable combat skills from the start of The Sonic Terminator? About the only time she was useless & ditzy was in her very first appearence and she gained an attitude pretty quickly after that. OK, yes, she got kidnapped three consecutive times, but one of those times was by Captain Plunder who then captured Sonic & Tails too and another time by Metallix.
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