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Post by Matt on Feb 21, 2005 22:15:41 GMT
i will not type a long essay on this....
yet ;D
as I need somtime to calm down, I am still (blank) off at this unacrurate pisce of trash, the cliam juile burchill makes in this is not only the biggest load of crap I have ever heard, it is also inaccurate biased and badly put together, she renforces the themes she tries to break.
and worst of [censored]ing all she hales the [censored]ing chavs and the working class hero, [censored], and use rock idols like johnny rottern to back up cliams, saying there the working class chav, [censored]ing punk rock is not chav, get your facts right
anyway I am digressing, will psot somthing well written when I calm down, I the mean time discuss this show
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Post by RSM on Feb 21, 2005 23:58:03 GMT
ROFLMAO
Oh I've gotta see this, could do with a laugh, or have I missed it?
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Post by Matt on Feb 22, 2005 0:28:02 GMT
yeah you missed it though no doubt there will be a rerun soon, it aired tonight a 9 on sky one.
and basicly follwed julie burchill, as she shove her opnions that she I right in veryone face while getting mardy at people how disagree, calling people how make fun of chavs bullies, while ingoraing the dmage that chavs do, and saying that all the working classes problem are related to the middle class opresstion, while giving no evidence,
i really hope I study this againin crtitaicl thinking as it would be so easy to rip apart her basicly noexistant argument,
see publicly admited that in the old day british working class were famous for there hard work and closness, and then had a go at some person, cliaming toil was boring she hated it and she woudl rather have loads of money and watch tv
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Post by Omnion (yes, he is a man) on Feb 22, 2005 16:07:04 GMT
This sucks, that stupid woman has no idea what she's talking about, or what a chav is.
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Post by Balls on Feb 22, 2005 17:38:24 GMT
I was outraged at the issues raised in that show. That show gave the view that all working-class people are chavs, and all chavs are working-class. That [censored]ing [censored] needs to realise that a chav is made a chav by the evil scumbag they act like, the stupid ways in witch they dress and talk, and the act of getting 12 year old girls pregnant, by thinking that sexual protection means keeping out of the rain by entering a bus-shelter.
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Post by Matt on Feb 22, 2005 17:46:05 GMT
yeah it terrible, I hated this program so much, not to mention see said that middle class people were jealosu of pregant teens, weres the conection, and see says all working class scine the 1890's have been chavs
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Post by hyperknucks on Feb 23, 2005 8:25:18 GMT
How can punk rock be chav [censored]ing hell dude
She's just a chav bimbo who don't know what she's talkign about
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JJ
Script Hume
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Post by JJ on Feb 23, 2005 13:03:49 GMT
I'm still not 100% clear on how one defines a 'chav'. Surely it just means all poor people/working class in Britain? Which is a helluva lot. All the definitions I've heard people come up with are so vague and varied that it's a wonder they were ever allowed to make a documentary on it. Someone wrote a book on the matter, too.  |
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Post by Baxter on Feb 23, 2005 15:26:26 GMT
This is something that annoys me. Many people fail to realise that "chav" isn't a dress sense or social standing - it's an attitude, and a bad one at that.
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Post by Matt on Feb 23, 2005 16:09:27 GMT
I'm still not 100% clear on how one defines a 'chav'. Surely it just means all poor people/working class in Britain? Which is a helluva lot. All the definitions I've heard people come up with are so vague and varied that it's a wonder they were ever allowed to make a documentary on it. Someone wrote a book on the matter, too. mor ethen one book, and it is not all the working class people in the country that is a terrible genralisation put out by some pople. there are many working class people who are not chvas, there new hiipies goth rockers trendies all there diffrent groups you care to invent. that what annoyed me this woman set out to make chavs sound like nice people, by the very ideals of what a chavs if that can't be true. why? beacuse like dan baxter said chav is an attitude, a bad one a that. call them what you want just don't call them working class heroes or nice people they arn't and the person that actully presented the case had no idea what the hell see was on about. |
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Post by Omnion (yes, he is a man) on Feb 23, 2005 19:46:58 GMT
Chavs are antisocial dorks, with bling rings, baseball caps, white shirts and all that stuff. (that's my idea of a Ned, but OFFICIALLY that's what a Chav is)
I think.
That moronic woman can't just say every working-class person's a chav. She only says that becuase she is thick, poorly informed and hasn't a clue what she's on about. Thank you.
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Post by Blizz on Feb 23, 2005 22:08:33 GMT
Basically a chav is someone who hangs around outside bus shelters and supermarkets all night, takes too many drugs, swears at everyone for no reason, including his/her friends, causes a lot of vandalism and starts fights with everyone. Usually seen wearing brand-name clothing with huge logos for everyone to see, excessive amounts of jewellery/bling on top of everything else, to show it off ("Look at mah [censored]in' bling [censored]!"), hoods up all the time to hide their identity, pure-white trainers and a baseball cap with the peak horribly bent and pulled low over their face, again to hide their identity. Rarely seen without their mobile.
Alternative names: Chav, charver, kev, ned, barry, townie, shaz (female chavs).
A chav is not a 'working class hero', like this stupid woman claims. He/she is an idiot who just irritates a lot of people, and won't even get a decent job in McDonalds for God's sake. That stupid cow must have a serious mental problem...
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Post by JJ on Feb 24, 2005 12:43:58 GMT
So...chavs are basically like Ali G?
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Post by Samface on Feb 24, 2005 13:25:25 GMT
So...chavs are basically like Ali G? Yup, except Ali G's taking the mick. So are Goldie Lookin Chain, though a lot of people don't seem to realise this. |
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Post by robbienekoda on Feb 24, 2005 18:16:17 GMT
I only saw the end, but I could see it was [censored].
"Mozart would have been a chav 'cause he married early and swore a lot". No, Mozart would have been a chav if he wore a burberry wig and broke into people's horsecarts.
The round up was crap too.
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Post by Balls on Feb 24, 2005 18:50:39 GMT
This is something that annoys me. Many people fail to realise that "chav" isn't a dress sense or social standing - it's an attitude, and a bad one at that. |
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Post by Dragonsteincole on Feb 25, 2005 21:33:40 GMT
Yup, except Ali G's taking the mick. So are Goldie Lookin Chain, though a lot of people don't seem to realise this. Ali G was way before his time. One step ahead of the game  GLC fnuking rock ;D Anybody who can look at them and say "Hey, they're a serious bunch of mild mannered guys" is a bigger idiot than that woman in the documentary. You knows it!  |
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