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Post by WinterFlames on Jun 1, 2013 22:29:11 GMT
Ahh, beaten to it. Yeah, kind of a shame, I was hoping for one more season out of him, and rumours had seemed to suggest we were getting just that. I'll just leave the link to the article here.
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Post by Hevs on Jun 1, 2013 22:31:04 GMT
Honestly I'm extremely happy about this and feel that he's already overstayed his welcome. That's totally down to taste though. I don't know if it's Matt I hate, or Moffat. Probably both.
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Post by Alex on Jun 2, 2013 11:41:54 GMT
I've loved Smith's Doctor. I genuinely think he's put a fantastic take on the character that will set a benchmark for the future, in the same way that Pertwee, Baker I and Tennant did.
I always kind of simultaneously look forward to and dread this regeneration moment now. When Ecclestone became Tennant, it was concerning and jarring - especially given that Ecclestone had barely gotten into the part by the time he left - but Tennant quickly, and easily, became the best part of an extremely weak series that followed. Similarly, while Tennant's climax was hardly a surprise, it was genuinely sad to see him go, and thanks to a change in writing direction, Smith's Doctor took a bit more time to 'sink in' and wear the part properly.
I know that I'll eventually grow to like whoever the new Doctor is (well, unless they're spectacularly badly cast), but I will definitely miss Smith in the role.
It is curious that they've been so far saying that he'd be back for Season 8, though. I guess that since the Christmas episode is part of the block for Season 8, it's not exactly a lie, but it's odd nonetheless. They've kept otherwise quiet about the next season entirely, so why bother to confirm something they knew would later be debunked?
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Post by Ringo (2015 Edition) on Jun 2, 2013 17:20:20 GMT
That is sad news, as I thought Matt Smith portrayed the Doctor really well, which exceeded my expectations when we first saw him in The Eleventh Hour. I wonder who'll be the 12th incarnation? Put your thoughts and who you like to see playing the role of the Doctor here.
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Post by Super Sonic on Jun 5, 2013 9:24:41 GMT
Been re-watching the Christopher Eccleston series and it's a lot better than I remember.
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Post by TheFatPanda on Jun 7, 2013 14:37:20 GMT
May as well chip in here. I love Doctor Who. I started watching about halfway through David Tennant's run. I'm more familiar with the modern Doctor Who stuff, my knowledge of anything before Paul McGann is extremely limited, although I know all 7 classic Doctors off by heart ironically enough.
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Post by The KKM on Jun 7, 2013 14:42:33 GMT
Been re-watching the Christopher Eccleston series and it's a lot better than I remember. People like to giggle on alien farts and not pay attention to anything else, but I honestly think it's the more solid season since the show came back.
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Post by Alex on Jun 7, 2013 17:03:14 GMT
Ecclestone's series was great. It was a good mix between the tone of the classic series, and a more modern "Hollywood in half an hour" approach. The second modern series was a massive let down that basically collapsed into its own navel - but Tennant's energy for the part saved it from being completely awful.
The third series was an improvement, with a much more interesting companion and a solid exploration of Tennant's Doctor throughout.
The fourth series was, again, a bit of a collapse into its own navel - especially with the self-congratulatory, nonsensical finale - but Catherine Tate's Donna and her family made for a killer combination alongside Tennant, and some of RTD's run's best moments were in that series.
Tennant's final run of specials was bombastic, loud and overwrought. Some good bits here and there, but otherwise, a symbol of what RTD's run on Who had devolved into, following such a strong opening in series 1.
Moffat's Who has essentially devolved the same way, which is a pity, as I feel he could have done a lot better with what he had.
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Post by L. T. Dangerous on Jun 7, 2013 22:58:12 GMT
Ecclestone's series was great. It was a good mix between the tone of the classic series, and a more modern "Hollywood in half an hour" approach. Eccleston's series is good but sometimes suffers from how bloody obviously Eccleston doesn't want to be there in some episodes. I mean, fair enough, the guy was miserable and angry, I'm not saying he shouldn't have been, it's just it does sometimes leak into the show itself, spoiling an otherwise rather excellent series (Slitheen farts aside). The second modern series was a massive let down that basically collapsed into its own navel - but Tennant's energy for the part saved it from being completely awful. Series two has some really good moments but it's mostly an "okay" series. Rose is unbearable towards the end. I did cry at her departure, but I was still glad to see her go. Oh and the Cybermen being treated like nothing happens in their second story when the Daleks thrash them while barely incurring a loss. Then they wonder why they have to keep reintroducing them as a big scary threat. Don't write them in [censored] situations to begin with, that's your answer. The third series was an improvement, with a much more interesting companion and a solid exploration of Tennant's Doctor throughout. Episode-wise, series three is my favourite. Gridlock is really rather weak but at least the denouement was nice. The Dalek two-parter, Blink and the Human Nature two-parter are still among my favourites, probably cementing this series' position in my mind. EDIT: Oh and yeah, Martha's brill. It [censored]ing bugs me like crazy when people say "Oh she wasn't good, they got rid of her after a series" as if that hadn't been the plan from the off! They don't rewrite and reshoot series finales in the space of two months based on internet [censored]s deciding they don't like someone as much as Rose Tyler. Gah.. The fourth series was, again, a bit of a collapse into its own navel - especially with the self-congratulatory, nonsensical finale - but Catherine Tate's Donna and her family made for a killer combination alongside Tennant, and some of RTD's run's best moments were in that series. I don't mind when the show gets self-congratulatory if I'm honest. After fifty years and millions of viewers, it's earned the right, really. You are right, though, episode-wise this ranks alongside series two but Donna is, bar none, my favourite companion. Astonishing, really, since I don't find Catherine Tate funny. She really won me over. As did not-that-funnyman James Corden later on. Tennant's final run of specials was bombastic, loud and overwrought. Some good bits here and there, but otherwise, a symbol of what RTD's run on Who had devolved into, following such a strong opening in series 1. The Specials were, really, a "farewell tour" for Tennant. As you say, they were up and down but, then, what series isn't? The casting of Lee Evans continues to baffle the absolute piss out of me to this day, though at least the character was likeable. Overall, Tennant had a lot of great episodes but just as many that were simply "good". There are six that really stand out to me in their weakness and half of those are from series two... Moffat's Who has essentially devolved the same way, which is a pity, as I feel he could have done a lot better with what he had. Series five is one of the show's best since 2005, the arc is fantastic. Some serious "what the [censored]?" moments of weak writing, though, like Chris Chibnall's bizarre decision to give such a non-ending to the Silurians' return. That said, there are some moments of absolute [censored] genius. The bit where the Doctor talks to Amy while she has her eyes shut? Brilliant. Series six is also really very good and Rory is so much more likeable than Amy. Series seven has been very hit and miss. It's interesting to come on here and see where opinion differs on that matter, though. Series seven part two has been more miss than hit, frankly. The finale was nice but really would have benefitted from an extra fifteen minutes. I am glad that River Song has finally [censored]ed off, though. It's amazing how I went from being thrilled at the idea of the Doctor's future wife to getting sick of the sight of her. Moffat absolutely overused her and made her a Mary-Sue and it really doesn't help that many of her characteristics do not make her suitable wife material for the Doctor. I often refer to her as The Best Character In The 50 Year History Of Doctor Who River Song because that's obviously what Moffat was angling for and maybe if we say it enough it'll be true and she'll not be annoying as [censored]. Series eight will offer a nice fresh start. They can kick things off by making Clara interesting, that'd be nice.
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Post by Ringo (2015 Edition) on Aug 4, 2013 18:35:47 GMT
Just watched Doctor Who Live. I think Peter Capaldi as the 12th Doctor will be awesome. Great choice!!
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Post by TheFatPanda on Aug 4, 2013 18:38:32 GMT
Not really feeling it with Capaldi just yet, but still I said the same about Matt when he was first announced and now I love him. I'm sure I just need to see a few episodes with Capaldi and I'll come to feel the same.
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Post by RedDevilDazzy on Aug 4, 2013 18:40:41 GMT
Good luck Peter Capaldi, hope you do fantastic.
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Post by Sam on Aug 5, 2013 10:39:29 GMT
So when do we get to see him in action? Autumn or Christmas?
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Post by Mambo's Here! Look Busy! on Aug 5, 2013 12:04:16 GMT
I would imagine we'd seen a regeneration towards the end of the Christmas special... the 50th special is in November, then Matt Smith leaves at Christmas.
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Post by Alex on Aug 5, 2013 17:31:26 GMT
Matt's final episode is the Christmas special, he regenerates into Capaldi during it (ie: at the end).
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Post by Super Sonic on Aug 5, 2013 17:36:02 GMT
Will he do a David Tennant and betray his Scottish accent?
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Post by The Shad on Sept 5, 2013 14:24:06 GMT
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Post by Mambo's Here! Look Busy! on Sept 5, 2013 16:44:28 GMT
Brilliant. And I read Professor Farnsworth's speech bubbles in his voice. True story.
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Post by Super Sonic on Sept 7, 2013 20:39:41 GMT
I like the fact McGann got in there. Eccleston looks nothing like he's meant to, though.
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Post by Knuckles on Sept 11, 2013 23:25:49 GMT
I met Sylvester McCoy celebrating his 70th birthday during the Fringe last month. He is such an extraordinarily nice man and was happy to talk all night, even playing air guitar on his crutches at one point. Great guy
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Post by Eleonora B.M on Oct 1, 2013 16:09:46 GMT
Few theories of mine about the 50th Annyversary special( which I so badly hopped would be brought to cinemas even in my country but apparently nooooo) and Christmas special:
"On the fields of Trenzalor, at the fall of the eleventh..." ok so the special won't be a true contiuum with TNOTD's episode, but it will most probably happen all in the Doctor's timeline. What if by "the fall of the eleventh" they actually mean the "death" of the doctor which died on his eleventh incarnation? Yeah, I know, how does this cope with Capaldi, Clara and Matt in the christmas special? All we know is that Matt's doctor jumped in his own timeline and now needs to get out with Clara. By River's words we can guess than Clara isn't dead, but the Great Intelligence is, and Clara states that she has seen all "11 incarnations" but hasn't seen this "Extra Doctor" interpreted by J. Hurt which was denied by the other "official" doctors. So.....WTF?! Here my best betts:
Matt's doctor actually created a time loop on Trenzelor by going there in the first place. The Tardis he parked in the graveyard will become the monument/toomb he sees (explaining the broken glass on the window on both Tardis) and the time scar/corps he finds in the control room is actually one he creates by jumping in to save Clara. And Eleven doesn't get out of that timeline scar, explaining why Clara only sees 11 doctors. However eleven is not Matt's Doctor but Tennant's since we figure out there is actually an other doctor that raises the count. So, in the end Tennant is the last doctor to actually remain and "die" in this timeline alowing "12" to get out with a Clara that somehow isn't 23 anymore but ither one year younger or older (connected to something saw in Bells of St.Johns) not sure how, but I'm willing to bet that her age is somehow the key to pull her out. The big last Time war, sealed off in a "moment", becomes some sort of means of excape for the doctor and Clara, reason why the special is based on it (metatalking: other than because it would be totally kick-ass and we still know almost nothing about it). How the events in the special take place and the relationship with Queen Elizabeth and Tennant's sotry interwind, no idea. But this would explain why the doctor died on Trenzalor in the first place and why we see the contemporary control room in the tardis, and probably this "fight" and paradoxes could bring about the "less of a time war but enought to bring the old man down" The Great intelligence talks about when descibing the doctor's death. So basically Capaldi would be 13 or EVEN 2 if you consider Matt's Doctor as 1 in a reboot of the counting since he cut himself in this theory of mine from the others.
But still I have some questions I have no idea how to fill: 1) Who actually makes Matt regenerate in the Christmas special? 2)Why was River's toomb in Trenzalor anyway and who made it work like a special entry to the Tardis? (Actually, what are ALL toombs doing there?) 3) Who gave Clara the doctor's number in the first place? (Could the mysterious woman really be River?!)
Last things I'm pretty sure of: 1) the doctor won't die on his 13th life (didn't River give him in Berlin all 9 of her remaining lives? reason why she can't regenarate anymore) 2)We'll Be seeing more of Professor Song. We still have to find out how the doctor told her his name and I'm ready to bet Moffat hid some other interesting treats in the "middle" 3) Clara will work as a bridge between Capaldi's and Matt's doctors as Rose did with 9-10.
So what do you think everyone?
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Post by Devo DrakeFox on Oct 2, 2013 23:57:53 GMT
I think I'll just wait and see what Moffat offers us.
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Post by The Shad on Oct 6, 2013 21:42:07 GMT
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Post by Mambo's Here! Look Busy! on Nov 14, 2013 12:43:39 GMT
Check out BBC iPlayer for The Night of The Doctor... and no, The Doctor does not turn into a werehog...
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Post by The Shad on Nov 14, 2013 20:29:25 GMT
Was not expecting him.
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