'Tis a disgrace

[Zerolus]

This is to bring the Sonic DS thread back on-topic.

Its those PlayStation mags, I've read them and was disgusted by what they said about Nintendo and the GameCube.

Such as in PSMax, they had a Resi Evil character saying: "I'm so thrilled to go on the LameCube, not." There was also a letter saying that Resi Evil going on the Cube is a disgrace. After that, whenever I saw an issue of PSMax, I got a strong urge to shove it down the shop assistants throat.

Now, before you say: "But I bet GC mags to the same." THEY DON'T. Honestly. NOM UK might sterotype against Sonic, and they may make comments about Sony like: "Beat that, Sony!" But I so far havn't seen stereotype comments on the PS2 nor any letters on saying that PS2 and Xbox are drat .

I got an issue of G-Force (a bit terrible, for embrassing reasons) and there was one letter saying: "If you want cheap quailty consoles, get a PS2 or Xbox. If you want a top quailty console, get a GameCube." Now, even though that short letter was stereotyped against PS2 and Xbox, THE MAG'S REPLY WASN'T: "PS2 and Xbox are not drat . But it doesn't take a genius to know which one's best." You know what they're suggesting.

But even though they obviously said GC is the best, THEY SHOWED SOME darn RESPECT TO THE OTHERS. And what does PSMax do? Well, you've just read what they did. And its because of that is why PS2 is popular and GameCube is not (at least, in my home town), because there are so many gullible people that they'll belive what they read.

Truthally, I was walking home with this lad in the same year as me (I will be kind enough not to say his name, unless a lot of people request me too), and we had a conversation. He said that GTA Vice City is the best game ever, and I asked where was that stated. And he said in a PS2 magazine. Well, of course it was stated in a PS2 magazine. It was exclusive to PS2 back then. But that wasn't all. He also said it said so on a lamp post. I checked it, and indeed it did. Prehaps he was fooling around, but he didn't say he wasn't, nor was he grining showing that he was.

What angerred me most though, is that I told him all about Metroid Prime, said that he might consider getting it. And when I told him it was on the GameCube, he suddenly lost intrest, at least 2 days later, I asked him again and he said he wasn't gonna get it because, in his view, that it was gonna be drat because it was on the gamecube. I considered hanging him.

He was also very stereotyped against Xbox as well. I like Xbox, I got one in America and I like it. This guy (the same lad) though, said he got one for Christmas but didn't want one. Said he thought they were rubbish compared to the PS2. I of course defended by saying Halo is on the Xbox and an better version of Counter-Strike. He didn't deny it (it be donwright idiotic to), but claimed that he didn't think Halo was as good as GTA Vice City.

You could all just say it was his own view, but I couldn't help just feel that it was not.

Sin, I'm gonna take your advice, I'm gonna go in and use an SMG on them tomorrow. And I'll give that guy a TNT pack for his birthday present.

Pennywise said:

Well if you look at it critically it was a discrace that the res evil series went to GC for the simple reason that had it not been for the psx there would be no resident evil. and most people predicted that it was a mistake due to the lack of features on the GC it wouldnt be a sucessful machine so it wouldnt have much of a future (you can tell because ever since the GC got the res series sony's machine has had more original res games) but im not concerned first off I have a GC so can play resident evil (the new remake) and the newest one, but as with code veronica (the so called dreamcast exclusive) chances are it'll grace the ps2 because it has more fans there.

[mobiusman]

censored for a reason, that word you used.

[JJ]

Well, PSMax is a stupid kiddy mag anyway, but I see what you mean. The reason they say these things is because they are rather jealous of the excellent Resi games the GC is getting. I know I was certainly jealous....that's why I bought a GC! ;D They're annoyed that the GC is getting Resi 4 (which is going to be a true evolution of the series, at long last), whilst PS2 owners have to put up with Resi Outbreak.

And don't worry too much about people's bias. As long as you're happy, it doesn't matter. I too know a lot of people who dislike the GC for reasons they can't even explain. As with every conflict, it's all a matter of perspective...things aren't usually as black and white as good/evil, or great/terrible. It's incredible how many people diss Wind Waker based on its looks.

As for 'best game ever', don't get yourself involved in that subject - everyone has a different opinion of that. GTA Vice City is one of the most influential games ever made, and Halo is a highly successful and well-made FPS, but to directly compare them is madness. There is no true 'best game ever', merely personal favourites for every individual. For instance, I think Vice City is a masterpiece, and Halo is generic and uninspired. But that's just me personally.

[Samface]

Games magazines being pointless and petty? Never!

It's not nearly as extreme as it was ten years ago, anyway. Most mags nowadays are perfectly civil, mainly because most writers play all consoles.

[Sin]

Can I ask you one question, why do you actually care? I see anti-Sony stuff all the freaking time but I don’t go on to write a 600+ word essay about how I feel about it, especially not for 9 words that were posted in a PS2 magazine.

The point of this message is just to say don’t worry about things like this, lets the idiots say what they want and don’t waste your breath. By ranting like this you are only irritating yourself and annoying PS2 owners.

Don’t try to stop the ignorance, let it slide past you are you will be truly free…Grasshopper.

[Vector]

what are we trying to prove here?
PS2s are good consoles, I just prefer a gamecube. and ive never given a second though to someone who downrated a sonic game(heros is overated )and I dont care about those little ppl that dis down a 'cube
because in my opion at the end of the day, not of them are the best, its all too near.
Xbox=has halo and halo2. need I say more?
GC=im a hugh sonic fan a must have^^
PS2= wide range of games good flexablity.

in other words...
people hold their own opions because were human so dont make a thread taking out your own nature and trying to surpress it.

[JJ]

Sonic Heroes is heavily, heavily, heavily underrated. I can't remember the last time I've seen a good game get so much slating.

[Baxter]

If magazine writers want to behave like immature 13-year olds, let them. It's their loss.

[Zerolus]

Jamie said:

As for 'best game ever', don't get yourself involved in that subject - everyone has a different opinion of that. GTA Vice City is one of the most influential games ever made, and Halo is a highly successful and well-made FPS, but to directly compare them is madness. There is no true 'best game ever', merely personal favourites for every individual. For instance, I think Vice City is a masterpiece, and Halo is generic and uninspired. But that's just me personally.

Wise words. I'm sorry I brought this up, but ranting helps me relive stress (that confirms it, I'm odd).

I guess you're all right, but still, the real reason why I'm angry is not to do with the consoles or the mags, its those people who are stupid enough to belive what they read/see/hear.

[Samface]

Well if they're not intelligent/free-thinking enough to think for themselves, they're not worth your time. Simple as that. I used to get random insults slung at me occasionally in secondary school, and obviously I didn't like it, but in Year 11 I realised I actually couldn't care less what the insulters thought of me.

[Shadic?]

Jamie said:

Sonic Heroes is heavily, heavily, heavily underrated. I can't remember the last time I've seen a good game get so much slating.

Yeah. No.
Complete blasphemy. If you talking underrated, take a look at mario sunshine.

[Mambo's Here! Look Busy!]

Samface said:

I used to get random insults slung at me occasionally in secondary school, and obviously I didn't like it, but in Year 11 I realised I actually couldn't care less what the insulters thought of me.

What for? For being a Sonic fan or for playing a certain game or console?
Each console has its pros and cons, but at the end of the day its the users choice. Me, I have all three coz Im just greedy....*checks pockets* ahhh, so thats why Im a poor student! lol!

[Samface]

Nah, just generally. I wear glasses, and have a hunch due to back problems, and back in secondary school I was ultra-shy so would go around determinedly (is that even a word?) avoiding eye contact. Classic target for random insults. Meh, like I said, didn't bother me after a while.

[Mighty Fan]

Reminds me of my mate scott, even though I've know him since he was 11 (or maybe 12) he acts like an old-fastioned (spl?) oldman. He used to get cussed down so badly but it never once bothered him.

[ChaosX3]

Anyone read Nintendo Official Magazine's review of Sonic Heroes? It was "Mario is better than Sonic" the whole way through. I have never bought a single issue since. When a mate at school bought an issue in to show off the DS, the star letter of the issue was "Keep Sonic off of Super Smash 3!" OK. First, no one has said anything about Super Smash 3 and second no one said Sonic will be on it.

"But I know!" they say "We are official! We can say F-Off Sonic and Nintendo will have to listen!"

Conclusion: Tossers

[Hades]

I can't remeber which one it was but I always remeber one of the nintendo mags refering to the playstation as the Greystation all the time..... not much of an insult I know but I guess they wanted to present it as dull and boring.

[Zerolus]

Chaos said:

Anyone read Nintendo Official Magazine's review of Sonic Heroes? It was "Mario is better than Sonic" the whole way through. I have never bought a single issue since. When a mate at school bought an issue in to show off the DS, the star letter of the issue was "Keep Sonic off of Super Smash 3!" OK. First, no one has said anything about Super Smash 3 and second no one said Sonic will be on it.

"But I know!" they say "We are official! We can say F-Off Sonic and Nintendo will have to listen!"

Conclusion: Tossers

They are right and wrong. Right: Sonic shouldn't be on SSB. 'Cause its about the history of NINTENDO. Not SEGA.

Wrong: "Mario is better then Sonic". Not true, at least for me. I enjoy them both of them very much. They both have their Pros and Cons. To say Sonic is utter crap and Mario is utter genius would only come from a fool.

[Shadic?]

Nintendo is much more consistent than sega

[Gorre]

My preference is XBox, PS2, GC.
Im sorry to say, but due to lack of suppor,t the Gamecube is lagging behing. The XBox is really only winning because it has the best online system, and the PS2, as much as I hate it, has a bigger variety of RPGs, which is vital for me.
But the stupid comments DO seem to turn up in PS2 mags, mostly. Probably just faux-masculinity because they know their console, if given an even share of releases, would plain blow.

[antispamsoftware]

Nintendo would never risk putting sonic in a Nintendo game the Japanese public would riot...