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Post by madhair60 on Mar 12, 2004 12:16:52 GMT
It started well...
Then Lew Stringer, as per usual, RUINED IT. he gave it a comedy ending, for gawd's sakes!
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Post by Spydaman LO on Mar 12, 2004 12:39:21 GMT
I assume you're talking about the last story? That's the problem with a lot of Stringer stories, there always had to be those silly "1 liners". The one that makes me cringe the most in that story is Robotnik's "Oi! Hedgehog! Nooo!" I rolled my eyes and was like "Oh gosh" at that one. The 2nd offender is another from Robotnik about insuring his citidel.
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Post by Tom on Mar 12, 2004 13:52:02 GMT
I thought it was a strong issue all round, except perhaps the third chapter.
Still, I do think that it's overrated by many... and probably didn't do much good for the comic in the long term (seeing as there wasn't much of a premise for the subsequent stories).
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Post by Ben2k9 at uni on Mar 12, 2004 14:43:07 GMT
it was a COOL saga though.
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Post by JKW on Mar 12, 2004 14:48:43 GMT
And I thought Sonic X was bad with "You wrecked my robot, and it isn't even insured!"
Have to admit, sometimes the 1 liners we're good in STC.. sometimes they we're just way too corny!
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Post by Samface on Mar 12, 2004 15:55:45 GMT
The third chapter could certainly have done with some tweaking... I liked issue 100 not so much through the story itself as the way it tied up all the current stories so neatly. Although anyone who says that Super bursting out of the Black Asteroid wasn't indecently cool is fibbing...
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Post by ChaosX3 on Mar 12, 2004 17:02:19 GMT
I'm not too strong myself on Issue 100. It has its ups and downs, lefts and rights... But the ending didn't deserve a *Budum PSSH*.
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Post by Darkshadowoffline on Mar 12, 2004 18:45:43 GMT
I went in to woolies with my parents when I was like 7 and saw issue 100, I had 90,94,98 and 99 and so wanted 100. Then my mum said no and I just left it. Then at least 2 days later I said to my parents "You do know that was issue 100" My mum was a little upset for me, since I loved sonic so much. So se went to get it, she came back with issue 101. ... oh well...Iwent around school looking for a friend who had one so I could borrow it (not.. ) Then I got the reprint in 2002, what a depression I went through, lew ruined it...
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Post by Admin Droid on Mar 12, 2004 18:47:23 GMT
I thought Lew's writing was okay, but the whole thing was structured in a way that didn't serve a gripping climax. It's actually the same kind of mistake I made in #226 where I tried to juggle too many threads and ended up dealing with none of them very satisfactorily. I think my favourite part is the fourth, though: it has the best character stuff with Sonic and Robotnik's real final encounter and I think it's the best art in the issue too -- Nigel Kitching did a wonderful job on that.
Tom, I totally disagree that #100 limited the premise... if anything, it opened things up. And Nigel produced some of his best stories here. Unfortunately, it seemed to give Deborah more leeway to have influence over Lew.
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Post by Vector on Mar 12, 2004 19:02:38 GMT
answer:no your not. I felt it when on too long(even thou it was a hugh chaotix story) and some of the drwaing wasnt to my taste (not to critisize those who managed to draw in stc) and yes some of the lines where bad.
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Post by Tom on Mar 12, 2004 19:34:41 GMT
I thought the crossover aspect of it was neat...
I didn't mean that it limited the premise - far from it - Nigel K did indeed produce some brilliant work afterwards - I'm saying that unlike before there was now no premise to work from. And indeed Lew Stringer suffered the most, which is hardly surprising considering the change was forced on him. He'd previously been dealing with light-heartedness in a dark world - which worked very well - but now the ideas weren't so easy to come by.
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Post by chad the hedgehog on Mar 30, 2004 12:41:37 GMT
I'm not too strong myself on Issue 100. It has its ups and downs, lefts and rights... But the ending didn't deserve a *Budum PSSH*. damnit I can't remember what happned in issue 100 what happneed agaihn
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Post by Sin on Mar 30, 2004 12:48:27 GMT
damnit I can't remember what happned in issue 100 what happneed agaihn It was the Final Victory. Sonic & Co finally liberated Mobs from the tyranny of Robotnik. In my own personal opinion, I enjoyed issue 100. But I never really liked the fact that they won. I always enjoyed STC but I enjoyed it much more when the Freedom Fighters had to hide and the comic had more of a desperate fight for survival feel. I keep reading STC for some time after, but issue 100 kinda represented the beginning of the end for me and I never enjoyed it quite as much.
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Post by madhair60 on Mar 30, 2004 21:24:32 GMT
REBOOTING? What the hell?
(The third letter stands for "Flying")
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Post by Sin on Mar 30, 2004 21:28:51 GMT
Yeah, I meant Robotnik. The spell checker picked it up and changed it, and me in my zombie-like state must have not noticed. Meh.
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Post by madhair60 on Mar 31, 2004 9:13:42 GMT
Why would it change Robotnik...?
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Post by JJ on Mar 31, 2004 9:26:44 GMT
I liked the way it tied everything together, but it was a little bit of an anti-climax. The issues leading up to it were more exciting, particularly in #99 seeing the Black Asteroid exploding from three different character perspectives. I really loved Lew's stories in those issues, like Solidarity and No Exit (I think those were the names).
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Post by Sin on Mar 31, 2004 11:34:49 GMT
Why would it change Robotnik...? Because Robotnik isn't a word and Rebooting is. You might not be aware but I type my messages up in a word processor and then copy them onto the forum. My computer has a tendency to screw up and I don't like having to retype in messages (especially long ones).
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Post by BlackSabbath on Apr 2, 2004 18:14:02 GMT
At the time, I loved the stories leading up to #100. When I read them recently, I realised I'd under-estimated how intricate the interweaving storylines are, despite some of it being cheesy.
As I said, at the time, I thought it was great. But now I realise some of the things said - throughout the comics' history - are a tad corny. The whole, "Oi! Hedgehog! No!" thing... I didn't really appreciate it back then.
A bit off topic, but I noticed recently something on Decap Attack, where they go to hell. The tannoy says something like, "Get off here for Hell, eternal damnation and Milton Keynes." I never got that back when I bought the comic, but appreciate it more now!!
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Post by Lockley on Apr 7, 2004 1:31:55 GMT
I think a lot of the comic has some slightly more 'grown up' jokes in it. Actually I remember Earthworm Jim being like that. ("I do believe in spoons!")
#100 Was a great issue but I get what you mean about Lew Stringer's stuff. I think nearly all of his were in some way comic/cheesy.
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Post by Zerolus on Apr 11, 2004 10:55:17 GMT
Most of Lew Stringer stories were pretty bad. (Anyone remember 'Day of the Puppets'? It was an Amy story) However there was one of his stories wich I actually liked. I can't remember which one though. (Goes digging in the StC pile) This could take a while...
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Post by Tom on Apr 11, 2004 13:09:32 GMT
Most of Lew Stringer's stories were actually pretty GOOD. It's just the bad ones (the more "humorous" ones, circa 90-170) that stick out in most people's heads.
I think the main thing LS sufferred from was working under Nigel's shadow. Whether he realised it or not, Nigel was unmatchable as a storyteller, and he had the advantage of an already-existing audience. Lew's approach to scripting was totally different to Nigel's, and so the in-built audience had more trouble warming to him (and let's not forget that Nigel had dibs on all the major storylines).
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Post by Zerolus on Apr 12, 2004 10:32:32 GMT
Agreed. Nigel's storys were 100% original. (Well, except his first one which tied in with Sonic 2) He thought up of StC Super Sonic to be a crazed demon. He came up with the Brotherhood of Metallix and the Drakons. And Chaos? Very origianl. Instead of being the guardian of the Chaos emeralds. Chaos was a Drakon. And the design of him was very different to Sega's Chaos. Nigels storys rule.
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Post by Retro on Apr 22, 2004 23:21:00 GMT
Amen to that, Nigel is a legend anomg boomers. But I never really looked at the artist until after I had finished, and I would rate it before I looked at them, in order to rate with simply saying, "Its nigel, its good"
I could never tell who it was with the art, I could never remember so that naver factored in. *Shot for not recognising Nigel art*
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Post by Zerolus on Apr 22, 2004 23:52:51 GMT
To be honest. I thought is was humarous when Robotnik shouted: "Oi! Hedgehog! No!"
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