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Post by Samface on Sept 9, 2010 17:37:37 GMT
Bit upsetting really that its getting little to no love. apparently dying in box office. IMDb's UK box office list had it in second last week, with takings of just over a million. It's down to 5th with £703,000 this week. So it's not doing that badly...
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Post by Charles on Sept 9, 2010 22:11:03 GMT
Fun film. Story was compressed to hell and you'll probably be suffering from fight fatigue long before the end, but it's a very fun film. Oh yeah, it's a blast. It keeps the right tone throughout and doesn't give you time to go "hang on, that bit is silly/makes no sense". Also, Wallace. Yay Wallace!
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Post by Samface on Sept 30, 2010 19:59:29 GMT
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Post by Baron Canier on Sept 30, 2010 21:17:06 GMT
Wait. How will the Knives summons work if you're already playing as Knives?
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Post by Nam on Oct 1, 2010 8:28:29 GMT
Summon Mr Chau? I don't get why this is a spoiler, but Cal says it is...
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Post by madhair60 on Oct 1, 2010 9:59:06 GMT
It's a spoiler because it's partially correct.
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Post by L. T. Dangerous on Oct 8, 2010 20:04:26 GMT
So I went to see the film today. It's pretty good, there are a lot of things that are glossed over or ignored and it moves way too fast. It's the only way it could ever be turned into a film, though. Trying to watch it as an outsider and viewing it on its own merit, I have to say I found Ramona a lot less likeable in this incarnation than in the books. The rest is kinda spoiler-y, so, big black box! By the time we get to Gideon, the fights are getting ridiculous- by shifting Knives and Ramona's confrontation to the end of the story, resulting in the dual duels, there's simply too much action on screen at once. I was getting ready to be upset at Scott and Knives getting together at the end too, I know they filmed an alternate ending where that happens but I think it's clear what Edgar Wright's preferred pairing would be, and it's not the one that's correct. Putting Scott and Knives together would have made the entire two hours pointless and he'd have gained nothing as a character.
Lots of things aren't resolved very well. Wallace tells Scott he has to move out, but this never happens. Stills doesn't get the resolution his character gets in the books and, on a thus related note, Julie suffers from lack of screen time because nothing happens that suggests she and Stills are truly broken up or that she's a [censored] that isn't worthy of a cool dude like him. Scott apologises to Kim for being a dick to her but that's worthless without seeing that fleshed out like it is in the books. Kim's a cool character, but it sort of seems like she's being a weird, obsessed [censored] for the whole film until Scott says sorry, and then everything's just hunky-dory. Envy basically accepts what's happened to her almost immediately just because Scott calls her Natalie. Why she is called Envy is never explained.
We lose a lot of the minor characters, which I think was always gonna happen- there's even a line that sort of hints at this, Stacey says she finds it hard to keep track of all of Scott's friends. We lose Joseph (which sucks), Lisa is turned into a passing mention of a past transgression, Lynette does nothing at all, Simon Lee got shunted into an animated feature, apparently, which is fine and all except he's pretty key to Scott realising he's a dick, we never see Scott's family, Jason Kim could have easily made an appearance, Other Scott and Mobile are combined, which is pretty much acceptable, and we lose Mr Chau, which is actually pretty lame.
The casting was brilliant. I'm not 100% sure on Michael Cera as Scott, but he didn't do anything bad so whatever. The rest of the cast were so right in the roles.
Wallace shone as the best character, which is what (I think) he is in the books. Stills was a good character, though it's a shame he didn't get character evolution he does in the books. Young Neil was pretty cool and, fortunately, avoids becoming a massive bellend like he does in the books. Kim was good. Ramona was hot (!). I think I liked Knives more here than in the books. She's still clearly mental and dangerously obsessed, but she's somehow more endearing.
I loved all the video game sound effects and music. The rest of the music was awesome too. I'm not completely taken by the song during the Patel fight being turned into a solo song, but it worked I guess. Oh, and Crash and the Boys' drummer made me crack up even though I knew what was coming.
The exes were all really well cast. It's a shame the twins didn't get any background (the fact Ramona was simultaneously cheating on them was a very important plot point in the books) or, come to that, lines. No robots, either? For shame. Lucas Lee was awesome, the one thing I was upset about during his fight was the lack of the "BUT HE COULDN'T.", which honestly made me laugh harder than anything else in the rest of that book.
I loved O'Malley's illustrations making appearances, including the bits obviously drawn by him for Stills' diagrams. The Nega Scott resolution was awesome and it works so well.
Overall, I enjoyed it. It wasn't perfect and it was a far from perfect adaptation. I wouldn't use it to introduce someone to the series, but I'd happily watch it again. I would very much like to see an extended cut so I could breathe a little between the scenes.
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Post by Mark on Oct 11, 2010 19:42:46 GMT
Scott Hebrew's precious little life?
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