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Post by Nam on Aug 28, 2008 14:24:46 GMT
Yep. To the point where it was actually a major part of the plot for Sonic the Hedgehog in the Forth Dimension. That's the other thing I'd been wondering, If at all, I wonder who influenced who since both stories of Sonic & Robotnik's past are nearly identical in that respect.Since Nigel just said he took the story from Stay Sonic, it's just a case of finding out which was first, Stay Sonic (which I have, and was out sometime near the beginning of 1993), or the American comic. If the comic came out first, then the author of that created the Kintobor Origins, otherwise credit goes to Mike Pattenden. I do note though, that while the origins of Sonic's speed and colour, and the origins of Robotnik are from the same book, the origins of Tails used in STC were very different to the one listed in Stay Sonic.
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Post by Baron Canier on Aug 28, 2008 14:56:14 GMT
Question: What precisely was it that drew you to Decap Attack, what with it being such an obscure semi-Sega creation, and made you turn it into the manic masterpiece that it was?
Also, how did the Marxio Brothers come about? I love those guys. ;D
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Post by madhair60 on Aug 28, 2008 15:35:36 GMT
Ooh, I'd like to know what you worked on Tom and Jerry wise. Do you mean the Fleetway Tom and Jerry comic? I think I have every issue of that, somewhere... The Tom & Jerry I worked on was published by London Editions. For them I wrote and drew a series of Droopy strips which I was happy about since he is one of the cartoon characters created by the great Tex Avery. My strips were very influenced by the cartoons. I also did some strips with Spike & Tyke. The Tom & Jerry strips were bought in from some European source but they were extremely well drawn. I'd love to see your Droopy strips. The European artist was most likely the excellent Oscar Martin.
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Post by Pitt on Aug 28, 2008 15:50:35 GMT
I haven't paid very good attention to the thread, so these may have been asked before (sorry if that's the case).
Anyway, which Knuckles stories did you most enjoy working on? Of the STC-exclusive characters you've created, which one is your favourite?
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Post by JJ on Aug 28, 2008 20:05:06 GMT
Love that cake image - that meme's a keeper. I suggest we call it 'Robotnik Bakes Supreme'.
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Post by WinterFlames on Aug 28, 2008 20:10:43 GMT
It's called "CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKEEEE!" by Biohazard.
But me and Stu seem to prefer Cake!Robotnik, and it's y'know, Stu, so any disagreement will lead to rape accidents.
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Post by Arch_one_zero_one on Aug 28, 2008 20:18:46 GMT
Accidents with the banhammer?
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Post by Nigel Kitching on Aug 29, 2008 8:08:23 GMT
What sense is there to make? Robotnik obviously wanted the powers of the chaos emeralds so he could create the ultimate cake! It all makes sense now! Anyway, Nigel you stated that you have strong feelings towards Decap but I wonder did Sonic and his adventures grow on you to the point where you fell in love with his character also? I mean I know it all began just as 'work' but all you did on the comic and putting all that time and energy into crafting and creating those plots and worlds you must have begun to enjoy working with Sonic's stories as well? I guess I'm just curious that if in a roundabout way you yourself began to start liking Sonic in the way many of us fans do? I may have mislead you. Of course it was a job but it wasn't just work. I quit my job in advertising to go into comics because that is what I wanted to do with my life. It's true I wasn't a Sonic the Hedgehog fan but I was pleased to get the job on the comic. I could see real possibilities for writing good stories there. I was also not a Decap Attack fan either. In fact I had never heard of the game when I accepted the work. I liked working on both Sonic and Decap equally really they both had their appeal. Decap allowed me to do some drawing and be silly and Sonic let me write adventure. I was very attached to my version of Sonic but I was never interested in what was being done with him elsewhere. One fan used to urge me to read some of the Archie stuff even sending me photocopies of a couple of issues. But I really wasn't interested. So I liked what I was doing but I never blossomed into a Sonic fan and I don't think I ever bought any of the merchandise. But the stuff I was writing I was very important to me.
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Post by Nigel Kitching on Aug 29, 2008 8:09:43 GMT
That's the other thing I'd been wondering, If at all, I wonder who influenced who since both stories of Sonic & Robotnik's past are nearly identical in that respect.Since Nigel just said he took the story from Stay Sonic, it's just a case of finding out which was first, Stay Sonic (which I have, and was out sometime near the beginning of 1993), or the American comic. If the comic came out first, then the author of that created the Kintobor Origins, otherwise credit goes to Mike Pattenden. I do note though, that while the origins of Sonic's speed and colour, and the origins of Robotnik are from the same book, the origins of Tails used in STC were very different to the one listed in Stay Sonic. I think I just made the Tails stuff up
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Post by Nigel Kitching on Aug 29, 2008 8:19:35 GMT
Question: What precisely was it that drew you to Decap Attack, what with it being such an obscure semi-Sega creation, and made you turn it into the manic masterpiece that it was? Also, how did the Marxio Brothers come about? I love those guys. ;D STC were going to do a strip based on Chuck Rock (I think that was what it was called) but at the last minute they discovered that they did not have the rights to create a strip. Richard Burton needed a new strip in a hurry so he called me with a short list of games. We discussed them and I chose Decap Attack as the one that had the most possibilities. Richard only had in mind to have me write the thing but I talked him into letting me try out for the art as well. I even offended to draw up a page on spec for his approval. Thankfully he took me on as the artist when he saw the page- this was the first page of the strip incidentally. The Marxio Brothers were an idea that was so obvious that I just had to do it. A parody of Sega's rival games characters was begging to be done. The 'clever' bit was mixing them up with the Marx Brothers - I was a bit concerned that the readership were unlikely to have any knowledge of the Marx Brothers but I decided to ignore this point.
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Post by Sam on Aug 29, 2008 8:22:53 GMT
I didn't know about the Marx brothers when I first started reading them, I thought they were just a Mario parody. But then years later I found out about the Marx Brothers, and then when I had by bi-five year read through the comics it was a great "hidden" gem to come back to.
In fact there were a few things in STC that I didn't get the first time around until I was much older - and it didn't affect my joy of the comic at a younger age either. Which is good.
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Post by obsidian on Aug 29, 2008 9:39:23 GMT
Dear Nigel Would you do me a picture of Biohazard throwing up ridiculous amounts for either money or favours? Need anyone killed?
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Post by Tom on Aug 29, 2008 10:37:55 GMT
I like to think the Marx brothers homage was educational to a whole generation of readers...
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Post by Baron Canier on Aug 29, 2008 11:14:09 GMT
I know it made me think there were only three Marx Brothers for the longest time.
I still think we should make a Wario-style character called 'Zeppio'.
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Post by The Shad on Aug 29, 2008 12:04:38 GMT
Regarding Sonic's green eyes, were there any undeveloped plotlines about them? I mean, after being absorbed into Chaos, getting super charged with Chaos energy, and that ancient echidna stating that "[Sonic's] eyes burn with their power!"
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Post by Nigel Kitching on Aug 29, 2008 15:21:16 GMT
I didn't know about the Marx brothers when I first started reading them, I thought they were just a Mario parody. But then years later I found out about the Marx Brothers, and then when I had by bi-five year read through the comics it was a great "hidden" gem to come back to. In fact there were a few things in STC that I didn't get the first time around until I was much older - and it didn't affect my joy of the comic at a younger age either. Which is good. I always tried to make sure that the characters worked wihtout anyone having to know where the idea came from.
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Post by Nigel Kitching on Aug 29, 2008 15:23:03 GMT
Dear Nigel Would you do me a picture of Biohazard throwing up ridiculous amounts for either money or favours? Need anyone killed? I'd rather not get involved in making any drawings if you don't mind. I'm sorry about that but it just takes up too much time.
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Post by Nigel Kitching on Aug 29, 2008 15:24:37 GMT
Regarding Sonic's green eyes, were there any undeveloped plotlines about them? I mean, after being absorbed into Chaos, getting super charged with Chaos energy, and that ancient echidna stating that "[Sonic's] eyes burn with their power!" I had no plans for the green eyes. If I'd worked on the strip longer something might have occurred to me though.
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Post by The Stiv™ on Aug 29, 2008 15:58:13 GMT
Dear Nigel, Do you now regret ever entering this thread?
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Post by Adamis on Aug 29, 2008 20:46:13 GMT
Hello Nigel, I wanted to ask if there were any specific Sonic stories you wrote (or had an idea about) that got refused by Sega/Fleetway? Or different endings?
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Post by Mambo's Here! Look Busy! on Aug 29, 2008 20:50:25 GMT
I like to think the Marx brothers homage was educational to a whole generation of readers... Absolutely.... I remember seeing the Marx brothers on telly when I was a kid and yelling to my mum "THOSE GUYS ARE IN STC!".. she responded with "No, dear... they're not." but still... it twigged! ;D I always liked jokes like that... I seem to remember reading up on positive and negative ions after reading the Arnem Abacus strip.
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Post by Nigel Kitching on Aug 30, 2008 11:40:45 GMT
Hello Nigel, I wanted to ask if there were any specific Sonic stories you wrote (or had an idea about) that got refused by Sega/Fleetway? Or different endings? When I first pitched Smokey and the Badnik it was rejected by Richard Burton who thought it was too similar to Cybernik. When Deb became editor I pitched it again and this time sold it. I do remember always wanting longer runs on Sonic so I could really do something structured but not getting my way. This was disappointing as I kind of thought I'd proved that this was popular with some of my earlier runs I'd written. When I began I was actually told no continued stories at all and I knew I had to gt that decision changed otherwise we were doomed. But I can't think of specific plots that were turned down. It was more a case of me not being given room to really develop stuff properly. My first Sentinel story (the Aquatic Ruin thing) came back to me with Richard Burton wanting a different and more dramatic ending. He then went on holiday and Steve McManus came in and had me rewrite the ending again.
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Post by Insector on Aug 30, 2008 16:45:32 GMT
My first Sentinel story (the Aquatic Ruin thing) came back to me with Richard Burton wanting a different and more dramatic ending. He then went on holiday and Steve McManus came in and had me rewrite the ending again. What were the alternate endings?
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Post by Pete on Aug 30, 2008 19:20:07 GMT
Dear Nigel, Do you now regret ever entering this thread? I feel a little bad for asking him to do this in the first place, since I didn't expect this much of an interest.
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Post by Tom on Aug 30, 2008 21:05:58 GMT
It was happening already in that other thread, anyway it seems to have died down a bit now. Nigel used to do this on the STC List all the time.
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