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Post by Super Sonic on Aug 28, 2009 8:30:31 GMT
Yeah. The new character designs that Sega produced for Sonic Adventure meant everyone's eyes changed colour. Well, they had colours when they didn't before. I thought Nigel was referring to us, as readers... =/
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Post by madhair60 on Aug 28, 2009 13:39:08 GMT
btw whoever deleted my silly post from this thread (which was clearly banter and not capable of provoking anyone), you're the worst mod ever.
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Post by Tom on Aug 28, 2009 14:42:11 GMT
I have a feeling that when I drew the cover for the dummy issue I was asked to include Toejam & earl. So maybe they were considered for a strip. Have you still got this dummy cover? You've mentioned it many times but I've never seen it.
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Post by Nigel Kitching on Aug 28, 2009 15:31:49 GMT
I have a feeling that when I drew the cover for the dummy issue I was asked to include Toejam & earl. So maybe they were considered for a strip. Have you still got this dummy cover? You've mentioned it many times but I've never seen it. I do have a photocopy somewhere - it's pretty bad to be honest. I think they used it in an early issue of STC as a backdrop to an ad or a next issue announcement or something. Nigel
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Post by Nam on Aug 28, 2009 16:37:49 GMT
Feel free to not answer and tell me I'm overstepping my mark here, but how where you paid by the comic, was it per story, or per page, and did you ever receive offers from other comics to try and steal you from STC? Did you ever get money for the re-prints?
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Post by Nigel Kitching on Aug 28, 2009 18:42:33 GMT
Feel free to not answer and tell me I'm overstepping my mark here, but how where you paid by the comic, was it per story, or per page, and did you ever receive offers from other comics to try and steal you from STC? Did you ever get money for the re-prints? Script was £40 per page and art £200. The lead strip was a little more but was cut back to the same amount when Egmont did a bit of economizing. I think that's what happened but it's a while ago now. I did do work for other clients but not because they were trying to stop me from working for STC. Never got paid a thing for any of the reprints. Nigel
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Post by The Tikal who had no Toes on Aug 28, 2009 19:51:13 GMT
btw whoever deleted my silly post from this thread (which was clearly banter and not capable of provoking anyone), you're the worst mod ever. Not guilty, Your Honour.
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Post by Balls on Aug 29, 2009 10:23:48 GMT
I'd imagine there was at least one issue in which you drew and wrote two strips. Must have been a good fortnight for you.
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Post by obsidian on Aug 29, 2009 18:25:47 GMT
Mr Kitching. If I went to Summer of Sonic could we fight? I don't WANT to fight you, I just thought the idea of pissing off people like Tom would be funny. I'd settle for a cool pic of Chuck or summat 2000 AD related, mind So you want a picture otherwise you'll try to fight me? That's not weird at all... Nigel Awesome.
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Post by MentalAnalysis on Sept 3, 2009 15:55:26 GMT
I'd imagine there was at least one issue in which you drew and wrote two strips. Must have been a good fortnight for you. that's an interesting point if you wrote AND drew a story would you really be getting £240 per page or would the pay be a little different?
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Post by Nigel Kitching on Sept 4, 2009 13:14:42 GMT
I'd imagine there was at least one issue in which you drew and wrote two strips. Must have been a good fortnight for you. that's an interesting point if you wrote AND drew a story would you really be getting £240 per page or would the pay be a little different? £240 - that's what I got for writing and drawing Decap. The rates we got on STC were pretty good - better than most in the industry. Nigel
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Post by madhair60 on Sept 4, 2009 18:59:02 GMT
Nigel.
I'm selling my STCs. Do you want to buy them with that fat Egmont cash? The other guy I promised isn't paying up. Nothing to do with their quality, mind. I just don't have the room anymore.
I'm keeping my Deadlines, though. They're dead good. Aaah! Get it!? Like the line!
Thanks in advance.
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Post by Nigel Kitching on Sept 12, 2009 10:20:54 GMT
Nigel. I'm selling my STCs. Do you want to buy them with that fat Egmont cash? The other guy I promised isn't paying up. Nothing to do with their quality, mind. I just don't have the room anymore. I'm keeping my Deadlines, though. They're dead good. Aaah! Get it!? Like the line! Thanks in advance. Your thanks are premature
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Post by obsidian on Sept 12, 2009 10:23:12 GMT
I'll buy them.
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Post by madhair60 on Sept 12, 2009 19:08:34 GMT
OK
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Post by RS on Sept 16, 2009 21:34:20 GMT
Nigel!
I have a load of ideas for original comics - in brief, the storylines are big and American, Marvel/DC/Dark Horse style. I want to write them, but I have no drive to do so as I feel that I'm very much "alone", having no contacts in the industry, and nothing will come of the whole thing. What are your tips for someone who is completely new in the business?
Cheers!
Rob
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Post by Nigel Kitching on Sept 17, 2009 14:53:25 GMT
Nigel! I have a load of ideas for original comics - in brief, the storylines are big and American, Marvel/DC/Dark Horse style. I want to write them, but I have no drive to do so as I feel that I'm very much "alone", having no contacts in the industry, and nothing will come of the whole thing. What are your tips for someone who is completely new in the business? Cheers! Rob You need a positive attitude to begin with - you sound defeated before you even start. Everyone has big epic ideas for stories (including me when I was a kid). Try writing a short story - this is far more of a creative challenge. But really I don't have tips - I never know how to answer this. If you want to write find somebody to write for - it won't be your idea client right off and it probably won't pay. Nowadays you can use the Internet to publish your stuff. Obviously you need to find an artist to work with. If you're serious do your research and find out what's out there and what you might be able to contribute to. My first published work was in fanzines. To start with single illustrations then strips. From this I had some work behind me and that helped to take the next step. In the end this is something you do for yourself and it takes some determination. Sorry to get all preachy... Nigel
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Post by Pete on Sept 26, 2009 17:19:24 GMT
Nigel, when you first started in the business, before building a reputation and getting your foot through the door, did you work any part-time jobs, or were you extremely lucky, and land paying jobs from the off?
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Post by Pitt on Sept 26, 2009 18:01:21 GMT
What part of creating stories was more fun for you; writing a story or drawing one?
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Post by Nigel Kitching on Oct 1, 2009 18:57:46 GMT
Nigel, when you first started in the business, before building a reputation and getting your foot through the door, did you work any part-time jobs, or were you extremely lucky, and land paying jobs from the off? I did quite a bit of stuff for the fan press before I was published
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Post by Nigel Kitching on Oct 1, 2009 18:58:46 GMT
What part of creating stories was more fun for you; writing a story or drawing one? I suppose writing is more fun. Drawing kind of feels like hard work to me.
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Post by Erinaceus Europaeus on Oct 4, 2009 18:17:31 GMT
Dear Nigel:
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1. Reading through this thread, I came to have a better understanding of what happened to the Echidnas, and I really liked your version of their history.
Particularly since my favourite Fleetway-made character for StC was none other than Dr. Zachary. Looking at the eventual fate of the echidna race, I now find Zachary more intriguing than before.
That being said, what other inspiration went into the idea of Dr. Zachary ?
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2. I'd like to link to a youtube video:
The main issue is from 0:45 - 3:31
Looking at the very first idea the Japanese creators of Sonic had for him (fangs and Madonna), I find him very different from the American redesign which became the Sonic used in the games and, of course comics.
So, in short, do you think Sonic is a Western character, or an Eastern character ? I ask since, as much as it appeals to both, being familiar with Eastern culture, approaches towards Sonic make him seek like a different character wherever he goes. Personally speaking, the redesign makes him more like a Western character, even in the Asian context of his conception.
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3. Do you envision the cast of StC to have British voices ? This may sound odd, but, as Amy Rose developed as a character, she always struck me as having a British voice. More then any of the other characters.
and, last, and a little bit least:
4. Can you recommend me some good British comedy telly ? I feel the need to watch more. A lot more.
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Post by Nigel Kitching on Oct 10, 2009 10:53:44 GMT
Dear Nigel: ~ 1. Reading through this thread, I came to have a better understanding of what happened to the Echidnas, and I really liked your version of their history. Particularly since my favourite Fleetway-made character for StC was none other than Dr. Zachary. Looking at the eventual fate of the echidna race, I now find Zachary more intriguing than before. That being said, what other inspiration went into the idea of Dr. Zachary ? ~ 2. I'd like to link to a youtube video: The main issue is from 0:45 - 3:31 Looking at the very first idea the Japanese creators of Sonic had for him (fangs and Madonna), I find him very different from the American redesign which became the Sonic used in the games and, of course comics. So, in short, do you think Sonic is a Western character, or an Eastern character ? I ask since, as much as it appeals to both, being familiar with Eastern culture, approaches towards Sonic make him seek like a different character wherever he goes. Personally speaking, the redesign makes him more like a Western character, even in the Asian context of his conception. ~ 3. Do you envision the cast of StC to have British voices ? This may sound odd, but, as Amy Rose developed as a character, she always struck me as having a British voice. More then any of the other characters. and, last, and a little bit least: 4. Can you recommend me some good British comedy telly ? I feel the need to watch more. A lot more. 1. Richard Elson brought the initial idea to me. The name he took from the old sixties TV series Lost in Space. It's really tough to separate out who thought of what but I think the whole idea of Zachary being inside a robot was Rich's - in fact I'm pretty sure it was. I also think the smashing the emerald thing was Rich too. I seem to recall he was a little annoyed that I took the whole idea and handed it to Nigel Dobbyn. I guess it's easy to see why but I just don't recall the series of events any more. 2. Thanks for the You Tube link, that was very interesting. I have no view especially about what culture Sonic should be. I guess I referred to the Americanized version but I was always aware that my audience was British. Not that I added in Britishness I was just aware of who my readers were. 3. I didn't imagine the voices in terms of national accents. The voice was just part of the personality but when you write it's more about the rhythm and the choice of words used, as obviously we don't have any sound. 4. I can tell you what British comedy I like. This will not be my top ten or anything just the stuff that occurs to me this moment: Porridge Fawlty Towers The Office Extras The Inbetweeners The Thin Blue Line One Foot in the Grave Men Behaving Badly (not series 1)
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Post by RS on Oct 10, 2009 10:58:09 GMT
You need a positive attitude to begin with - you sound defeated before you even start. Everyone has big epic ideas for stories (including me when I was a kid). Try writing a short story - this is far more of a creative challenge. Nigel Basically I used to write short stories all the time up 'til about seven years ago when I met this dude. Creative-wise, we hit it off as we knew the kinds of stories we wanted to see. I didn't realize he was a manipulative [censored]. Put simply, in may this year he pissed off with all my ideas, and I was left in a horrible state because he was trying to mentally beat me down so he could claim them as his own, 'cause I've got no work of my own to back the claim up. It worked. I'm slowly healing but I just haven't got the work done yet. Trying to write currently is like trying to hold your hands in hot water. I know what I want to tell, I know all the details, but... Maybe I should take a writing course.
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Post by Nigel Kitching on Oct 10, 2009 13:06:43 GMT
You need a positive attitude to begin with - you sound defeated before you even start. Everyone has big epic ideas for stories (including me when I was a kid). Try writing a short story - this is far more of a creative challenge. Nigel Basically I used to write short stories all the time up 'til about seven years ago when I met this dude. Creative-wise, we hit it off as we knew the kinds of stories we wanted to see. I didn't realize he was a manipulative [censored]. Put simply, in may this year he [censored] off with all my ideas, and I was left in a horrible state because he was trying to mentally beat me down so he could claim them as his own, 'cause I've got no work of my own to back the claim up. It worked. I'm slowly healing but I just haven't got the work done yet. Trying to write currently is like trying to hold your hands in hot water. I know what I want to tell, I know all the details, but... Maybe I should take a writing course. An idea is an intangible thing and nobody can run off with one. Any ideas you have are ideas you have. This guy can claim what he likes, who cares? If your relationship is over then it's over. This person may as well not exist for you. If you're worried about what other people will think then don't be. Do what you want to do and do it for your own satisfaction. When your brain comes up with reasons why you can't do stuff don't listen to it. Become conscious of when you are making excuses for not doing something and teach yourself to stop doing it. Do a writing course if you want to. Don't if you don't. It's not about stuff like this it's about an attitude to life. Write your stories and then find a way of getting them read by other people. Start by finding an artist if you want somebody to draw a script. The first job is to get one other person excited enough about your ideas to want to work with you. The past is over, forget about it. Nigel
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