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Post by Nigel Kitching on Oct 18, 2009 10:49:59 GMT
Just wondering, seen this question in a number of other threads but it hasn't been asked here yet, what animal exactly was Captain Plunder? Was he just some random pseudo-human or does he have a specific animal you based him off? This is the description I wrote for Rich for Captain Plunder's first appearance: "Big panel. Sonic and Tails have their backs to us and are half way to getting to their feet. Standing over them is the enormous Captain Plunder. Make the captain look very aggressive indeed and armed to the teeth. Make him a collection of pirate cliches - eye patch, parrot on the shoulder, hook, peg leg, the works - except this is a futuristic setting so let's have a sophisticated Swiss army knife of a hook, a robot parrot and a robotic peg leg. With the captain is his side-kick 'Filch'. Filch is a ghost, make him a scruffy Ben Gun-like character who is semi-transparent. He has a hole going directly through his forehead and out the other side of his head - this is the bullet wound that killed him. Make the hole big enough so we can see that it is a hole though. Get as many other pirate characters into the panel as possible. These pirates are all rats and all adults - Sonic is about 15 years old. Do not make them at all cute, these are very threatening characters and I think we should go a little beyond the normal funny animal look - actually I think we ought to go a lot beyond the usual funny animal look. The scene is in a large cavern. Beyond the cliff edge, on which the characters are standing, we can see where the sea is coming in through a cave entrance, this makes a large underground lake. In this large lake is a pirate ship - once again give it a recognisable pirate look but make it look futuristic. Although in this panel it is floating in the water, this ship is able to fly and travel through space." After he got the script Rich and I would have chatted - but it's too long ago to remember what we actually said. I do know the rest of the look of Plunder was down to Rich so only he would know what kind of animal he had in mind for Plunder. I notice a couple of things: I give Sonic an age of 15 - I was surprised to see this. I guess I was getting across the idea that he was a youthful character but not a kid. The second thing I notice (and remember doing at the time) is trying to push the visual look of the strip to be less juvenile. I was sure we needed to make Sonic a serious action adventure strip and not a funny animal thing. Thank goodness I had Rich to work with on this - the way he made these characters dramatic was pretty amazing. Nigel
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Post by Nam on Oct 18, 2009 18:28:55 GMT
Don't know if you knew this, but when you were writing that, Sonic's actual profile age, according to Sega, was 15. If you came up with fifteen as an estimate age without any info on his actual age, you made a very lucky guess.
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Post by Nigel Kitching on Oct 19, 2009 20:20:38 GMT
Don't know if you knew this, but when you were writing that, Sonic's actual profile age, according to Sega, was 15. If you came up with fifteen as an estimate age without any info on his actual age, you made a very lucky guess. Although I don't remember that it does seem quite possible that I knew at the time. Who knows what I was up to?
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Post by Kurai on Oct 26, 2009 12:18:15 GMT
Were you ever tempted to do a Decap attack/ Sonic crossover?
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Post by Charles on Oct 26, 2009 13:56:56 GMT
Was your Streets of Rage story (where the gang have to run for safe ground while pursued by every gang in the city) inspired by The Warriors?
Also, how did you inherit the strip and did you have any plans to keep it going? (It ends with a new Mr X swearing dread vengeance and all)
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Post by Balls on Oct 26, 2009 19:34:42 GMT
Don't know if you knew this, but when you were writing that, Sonic's actual profile age, according to Sega, was 15. If you came up with fifteen as an estimate age without any info on his actual age, you made a very lucky guess. I hate to be geeky enough to remember this, but no he wasn't. He was 16. He became 15 in Sonic Heroes. At the same time, Knuckles was 15 back in the day and then he and Sonic just kinda switched ages.
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Post by Mambo's Here! Look Busy! on Oct 26, 2009 20:13:48 GMT
Knuckles' age was stated as 15 in the Sonic 3 manual... also that he liked grapes! I never saw Sonic's age in a manual back then, however. Where was his age actually mentioned?
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Post by Arch_one_zero_one on Oct 26, 2009 22:14:52 GMT
I know it was in the Sonic's World bit of Sonic Jam somewhere. It had bios of a few characters. Sonic was put at 15, Knuckles at 16 and I can't remember the others.
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Post by Pete on Oct 27, 2009 0:01:16 GMT
I know it was in the Sonic's World bit of Sonic Jam somewhere. It had bios of a few characters. Sonic was put at 15, Knuckles at 16 and I can't remember the others. Actually, it says that Sonic was 16, Knuckles was 15, and Tails was 8. Robotnik wasn't given an age, rather that his I.Q. was 300.
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Post by Arch_one_zero_one on Oct 27, 2009 3:18:56 GMT
Ah yeah, I knew it was something like that, my Saturn died about a year ago, so my memory's a bit iffy.
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Post by Woodster on Oct 30, 2009 23:38:09 GMT
Actually, I have an age related question. I know officially, Tails is 8, but he doesn't seem 8 in the comics. In your potrayal of Tails, what age did you give him, Nigel?
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Post by Nigel Kitching on Oct 31, 2009 10:38:28 GMT
Were you ever tempted to do a Decap attack/ Sonic crossover? You know it never occured to me. It also never crossed my mind to ask Rich to draw a Decap - speaking to him after STC he told me he would have liked to.
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Post by Nigel Kitching on Oct 31, 2009 10:46:18 GMT
Was your Streets of Rage story (where the gang have to run for safe ground while pursued by every gang in the city) inspired by The Warriors? Also, how did you inherit the strip and did you have any plans to keep it going? (It ends with a new Mr X swearing dread vengeance and all) When Mark Millar left the comic I asked the editor to give me a chance on this. He wasn't keen and didn't see me as somebody who was right for a dramatic strip. I don't know why some editors seem to think that if you write something one particular way then that's all you can do. I had plans for the next series but all I can remember is that I planned to mislead people about who Mr X actually was.
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Post by Nigel Kitching on Oct 31, 2009 10:47:29 GMT
Was your Streets of Rage story (where the gang have to run for safe ground while pursued by every gang in the city) inspired by The Warriors? Also, how did you inherit the strip and did you have any plans to keep it going? (It ends with a new Mr X swearing dread vengeance and all) Oh, and no I have never seen or know anything about The Warriors.
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Post by Nigel Kitching on Oct 31, 2009 10:49:18 GMT
Actually, I have an age related question. I know officially, Tails is 8, but he doesn't seem 8 in the comics. In your potrayal of Tails, what age did you give him, Nigel? I really didn't worry about all this age stuff. But Sonic and Knucles were kind of of late teens and Tails was a bit younger
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Post by obsidian on Oct 31, 2009 11:08:37 GMT
I have nothing to say on any matter other than that I love the Carry On films
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Post by ShayMay on Nov 12, 2009 0:47:15 GMT
First things first, thank you very much, Mr. Kitching, for filling in really boring holidays in London, and bus trips, and just about any other given situation (school), all those years ago.
My question is: How do you prepare scripts you made/make? Do you type them up, or do a basic panel sketch, etc.? I ask because my friend and I (incidentally, very good luck to Righteous Indignation, although my partner's someone I can trust, I'm sorry to hear about what happened to you) are doing a project in our spare time, we have the concept, but have no clue how to get the thing on paper.
Many thanks!
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Post by Nigel Kitching on Dec 30, 2009 16:42:43 GMT
First things first, thank you very much, Mr. Kitching, for filling in really boring holidays in London, and bus trips, and just about any other given situation (school), all those years ago. My question is: How do you prepare scripts you made/make? Do you type them up, or do a basic panel sketch, etc.? I ask because my friend and I (incidentally, very good luck to Righteous Indignation, although my partner's someone I can trust, I'm sorry to hear about what happened to you) are doing a project in our spare time, we have the concept, but have no clue how to get the thing on paper. Many thanks! If I've got this right there should be an attached script. This is typical of what I wrote for Rich (who was up to speed on Sonic and the world and didn't need lots of detail). I might have sketched out some panels beforehand. But to be honest I was usually able to imagine how a page would work. I would have some notes to refer to and I especially had a rough break-down telling me how much stuff I needed to get on each page. Hope this helps. Nigel Attachments:
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Post by Charles on Dec 30, 2009 19:47:25 GMT
I'm surprised there's a note to the editor about why you've called Sonic a person. Then I looked at the finished strip and saw Robotnik was calling them "two different individuals" instead! (And, erm, he's saying it out loud instead of thinking it - I'm guessing that bit wasn't your edit!)
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Post by Tom on Dec 30, 2009 20:52:23 GMT
Also "how on Earth" was similarly altered.
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Post by JJ on Jan 8, 2010 17:40:34 GMT
Hey Nigel, sorry to bother you with this [censored]. I have possibly the most obscure question ever, from the STCO staff. In 'Casino Night', STC #18 and 19 (the story that introduced the Marxio Brothers), there is a very, very, very minor character that we would really like to know the name of. He's the down-on-his-luck dog who loses everything to Robotnik's slot machines in the first part of the story. We keep getting this character into our backgrounds and it nearly ALWAYS raises the question of what his name is. We would appreciate it if you had a look at your old scripts - did you ever have a name for this guy? He's fast becoming the quintessential background character, carving out a proper career for himself as an extra. If not, then I will have to forcefully demand that you name him. We COULD name him ourselves but there's a general consensus that we don't have the AUTHORITY to do so, such is the high level of STC clearance it requires. Here he is: Bless 'im. What an endearing loser. I like to think that he just spends his days wandering around the zones in his adorable pink pantaloons, terrified of returning home to his wife with no money. Sometimes he goes to the park and just sits, and wonders why. I bet if you heard him sing it would make you cry. Anyway, that's enough from me.
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Post by Baron Canier on Jan 8, 2010 17:45:53 GMT
He's probably just called "Dog".
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Post by JJ on Jan 8, 2010 17:51:59 GMT
Yeah, probably.
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Post by Calisto on Jan 8, 2010 17:59:33 GMT
Call him Doug. To be clever.
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Post by ShayMay on Jan 8, 2010 19:38:06 GMT
"Bud", perhaps? Maybe Sonic's addressing him by name in the first panel, after reminiscing about the good old days they spent as tykes, doing... whatever the hell it is a hedgehog and a dog do together. I suspect Sonic stole his food on a regular basis, forcing him to gamble to try and keep himself alive.
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