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Post by Knuckles on Jun 25, 2009 7:38:47 GMT
Omni says a few times in STC that Sonic and him go back a long way. But do we ever find out how they know each other? If not, it would be cool if STC-O cleared up this little mystery in a future issue.
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Post by Pitt on Jun 25, 2009 7:53:22 GMT
Well, back when Shadow was explaining his history with Kintobor, he said that Kintobor was able to contact those crocodile scientists from the Special Zone, who seem to know the Omni-Viewer. Most likely, Sonic was Kintobor's partner at the time and he met Omni that way.
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Post by WinterFlames on Jun 25, 2009 9:28:18 GMT
Kintobor's research brought him into contact with the EQUINOX Crocodile Research Team who (it is never outright said if I remember rightly) created the Omni -Viewer. And the rest was future history.
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Post by Knuckles on Jun 25, 2009 9:42:56 GMT
thanks guys. I assumed it would be something to do with Kintobor but wasn't sure.
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Post by Pitt on Jun 25, 2009 13:30:43 GMT
One thing I would be interested in is a general idea of where the Omni-Viewer came from. Not some kind of detailed exploration of his origins, of course, because that'd eliminate much of the character's relatively enigmatic nature.
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Post by Insector on Jun 25, 2009 15:20:49 GMT
I want to know how he can be disgusted by the smell of a rotten egg. He doesn't really have a nose. It's just like a hologram thing.
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Post by Lost Mercenary on Jun 25, 2009 16:16:07 GMT
I want to know how he can be disgusted by the smell of a rotten egg. He doesn't really have a nose. It's just like a hologram thing. I remember something The Terminator once said. "I sense injuries. The data could be called pain." Maybe it's the same with the Omni Viwer in regards to his other senses. |
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Post by Mambo's Here! Look Busy! on Jun 25, 2009 17:09:31 GMT
I guessed he met Omni through Kintobor.. and that's how Omni could show them Sonic's history; he was there first hand.
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Post by Tom on Jun 25, 2009 23:32:11 GMT
was it ever stated that he's fuelled by refined chaos energy. if not, it was meant to...
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Post by Knuckles on Jun 26, 2009 4:17:38 GMT
was it ever stated that he's fuelled by refined chaos energy. if not, it was meant to... refined chaos energy? Isn't that a bit of a contradiction? I'm not good with science, never mind fictional science but I thought the Chaos emeralds energy was way too unstable to be refined or used for anything? Other than keeping Islands afloat of course. Hmmmm...wonder how the Floating Island kept afloat before the existence of the Chaos Emeralds or if it used to be a part of Mobius. |
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Post by vulpine on Jun 26, 2009 8:12:45 GMT
Shadow said something along those lines when he made Omni send Knuckles and the Chaotix back to Mobius.
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Post by Pitt on Jun 26, 2009 11:55:22 GMT
If that's the case, did the Special Zone crocodile scientists have access to Chaos energy? They were plugging what looked like a charger into Omni at one point, though maybe that means he can use more than one type of power source.
Of course, why he'd need to be recharged is a curious thing. If the Special Zone is basically created from Chaos energy and Omni runs on the stuff, surely he should have unlimited power so long as he's in the Special Zone? Actually, this might explain why Super Sonic changed in STC #100; Omni was basically cannibalising him to keep himself charged.
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Post by madhair60 on Jun 26, 2009 12:30:34 GMT
Personally, I'd rather they didn't. Stories that would retroactively make STCO "canon" should probably be avoided.
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Post by MentalAnalysis on Jun 26, 2009 18:30:29 GMT
It would be cool if STC-O did a short story with Sonic and the Omni-Viewer have an adventure together. They worked well enough as a team when they first fought super sonic.
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Post by Charles on Jun 26, 2009 19:59:24 GMT
Of course, why he'd need to be recharged is a curious thing. He needed it after Super escaped, so however Super did it must've done some damage. (How DID he do it?!) Depends if he knew. |
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Post by Pitt on Jun 26, 2009 21:44:06 GMT
He needed it after Super escaped, so however Super did it must've done some damage. (How DID he do it?!) Started eating Omni from the inside, absorbing his energy to try increasing his speed, maybe. As a result, Omni's powers contaminated his own and turned him good. |
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Post by Warped‽‽‽ on Jun 26, 2009 23:20:26 GMT
There was me thinking that the leak of chaos energy from Super was caused by being on Mobius (Which was not created by Chaos energy, so in my mind, the energy sort of 'diffused' out of him) and then Super turning 'good' was due to this lack of chaos energy. The chaotic nature of the energy being what made him destroy, etc. (Chaos meaning he couldn't focus, concentrate, and just got frustrated, wanting to destroy everything.  ) |
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Post by Mambo's Here! Look Busy! on Jun 26, 2009 23:23:14 GMT
Hm, yes I thought it was the Chaos energy that made him evil. Seeing as in Super's first few appearances, he wasn't that evil; but it was the combined power of the Super and Master Emeralds that did the "evil" damage; once that energy was drained, it was no longer there to make him evil. Once he was exposed to Chaos after scoffing the Emeralds, he started to turn nasty again... Afterall, Chaos Energy originally was meant to be concentrated evil, as opposed to a power source.
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Post by The Shad on Jun 26, 2009 23:27:46 GMT
No, the Emeralds were used (by Kintobor) to absorb negative emotions from Mobius to make it a true paradise, the energy itself was just unstable.
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Post by Mambo's Here! Look Busy! on Jun 26, 2009 23:29:54 GMT
I'm sure when Sonic pinches the Emeralds back off Plunder, Tails says "Be careful Sonic. Those Emeralds contain pure evil."... which also makes me wonder, why did Sonic not go Super in their presence together that time. Were they not powerful enough in their minature form? He knew they would warp to the Special Zone if they weren't kept cold...
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Post by The Shad on Jun 26, 2009 23:33:41 GMT
Kintobor's plan was for them to "contain" evil, which is why they suck up the negative emotions from Plunder and co, turning them into hippies.
Knuckles stated that the Emeralds were greatly depowered at some point (during the second Knuckles arc, I think it was)
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Post by Supermorff on Jun 27, 2009 9:20:15 GMT
In issue #49, Knuckles stated that the Emeralds had been de-powered from their original form while Sonic had them, thus explaining away their change in shape between issues #36 and #49 (to match S&K). The implication was that the de-powering was due to their being split from six into twelve.
That said, in the first Sonic's World arc (#26), the text mentions that they changed from being uniformly green to their multi-coloured forms after warping back to the Special Zone for the second time, when they dosed Sonic with the evil/Chaos Energy that let him change into Super Sonic thereafter. (The artwork still showed them as green in issue #27, but I suspect that was a mistake.) Is it possible that the six Mobian Emeralds were depowered by Kintobor's attempts to use them for storing evil, and that they became slightly more powerful after purging most of that evil energy (first into Robotnik, then Super Sonic)?
Theory: the Chaos Energy that Sonic absorbed to turn him into Super Sonic was tainted with pure evil. Any subsequent Chaos Energy he absorbed was similarly tainted, by the evil that he had already absorbed. Absorbing more Energy meant that more was tainted by evil, making Super Sonic himself more evil. And that's how character development happens...
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