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Post by Juliett. Bravo. Alfa. on May 16, 2008 21:04:47 GMT
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Post by Baron Canier on May 16, 2008 21:11:04 GMT
Hm. These past couple of years really have been an odd mix of games that were a long time coming. The NiGHTS sequel, Banjo Kazooie 3, Eartworm Jim's return, Duke Nukem Forever, a new Kid Icarus supposedly in the works and now the sequel to the wholly underappreciated Beyond Good & Evil. Awesome.  |
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Post by Pete on May 16, 2008 21:21:56 GMT
Even if Shenmue 1 and 2 are released, any attention to the series has got to be good news.
And also, yay on BGAE! Jade was probably one of the most likable game characters this side of Alex in HL2, and the way they ended on a cliffhanger...
Seriously, games shouldn't have cliffhangers if they can't guarantee they'll be followed up.
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Post by Blizz on May 16, 2008 22:42:46 GMT
Hm. These past couple of years really have been an odd mix of games that were a long time coming. The NiGHTS sequel, Banjo Kazooie 3, Eartworm Jim's return, Duke Nukem Forever, a new Kid Icarus supposedly in the works and now the sequel to the wholly underappreciated Beyond Good & Evil. Awesome. Don't forget Sam and Max. |
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Post by Samface on May 17, 2008 13:07:45 GMT
Oh good God yes.
now let's have a burning rangers 2 plzkthx
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Post by Balls on May 17, 2008 13:30:24 GMT
There is no Shenmue revival. There never will be.
If this turned out to be true, I'd also be very wary of it. Remaking the first two is fine, but I really, really wouldn't want to see any kind of Shenmue III on the Wii.
Ever.
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Post by Shadic? on May 18, 2008 0:24:43 GMT
Ports?
Perhaps we could find Sailors there.
The way I see it, any Shenmue attention is good Shenmue attention. I wouldn't mind seeing both games brought to the Wii, or even 3 developed to the Wii (I'd play it on DC if they made it!). It's just a rumor at this point, so no point in getting too excited about it.
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Post by Pete on May 18, 2008 0:41:24 GMT
The way I see it, any Shenmue attention is good Shenmue attention. I wouldn't mind seeing both games brought to the Wii, or even 3 developed to the Wii (I'd play it on DC if they made it!). It's just a rumor at this point, so no point in getting too excited about it. If it was released as a novel, or even if the script was released in a booklet, that would do me. I don't think the Wii is the best format for Shenmue, but anything's better than nothing, I guess. |
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Post by Balls on May 18, 2008 2:06:54 GMT
From a story point, yeah, a book or a Wii game would be fine.
Let's remember what Shenmue was, though. It was the most interactive game of its time, it had the biggest graphics breakthrough EVER (Gears Of War was good, but it wasn't as much of a leap from the other 360 games as Shenmue was in the 32 BIT era), was completely immersive and completely blew us away with every single tiny little aspect of the game.
It needs to return in that same way. No bull[censored] about budget limitations; if Sega are still willing to fund failures like Yakuza- with actual good voice acting provided from Mark Hammil, Micheal Madsen and Eliza Dushku- with stupidly large budgets, there is no reason Shenmue shouldn't get that kind of attention.
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Post by Alex on May 18, 2008 2:18:31 GMT
Shenmue will never be re-released. It will never have a third game. It's dead, it's done. Stop. Just. Stop.
The Wii could be the only system on the market and selling billions and there would still be no chance of Shenmue ever appearing on it, nor there ever being a continuation of the game.
Just give it up, guys.
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Post by Baron Canier on May 18, 2008 9:44:28 GMT
To be fair, the exact same thing could've been said about Nights not so long ago.
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Post by Pete on May 18, 2008 10:07:05 GMT
Hm. These past couple of years really have been an odd mix of games that were a long time coming. The NiGHTS sequel, Banjo Kazooie 3, Eartworm Jim's return, Duke Nukem Forever, a new Kid Icarus supposedly in the works and now the sequel to the wholly underappreciated Beyond Good & Evil. Awesome. And there's the re-release of ancient games like Golden Axe on Live, and their characters in Sega Tennis. There's always some hope. |
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Post by Alex on May 18, 2008 10:37:35 GMT
Golden Axe is getting a new 360/PS3 game as it is.
The problem is, it looks like utter [censored]e.
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Post by Pombar on May 18, 2008 10:39:15 GMT
The real concern is that the Wii is the console in which hardware sells to unprecedented levels, but the software barely does, bar a few Nintendo first party titles. I predict that a Shenmue anthology would be mostly ignored and financially questionable.
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Post by Alex on May 18, 2008 10:41:24 GMT
That prediction would come true whatever system it was released on. It's called a cult classic for a reason - and hasn't seen any development to it since for the same reason, especially since it cost so much to make and didn't stand a chance of making that back.
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Post by Balls on May 18, 2008 18:24:30 GMT
Shenmue Online was confirmed as being in production until as late as 2006.
Thing is, though, while a lot of old franchises are being revived these days, a lot of old franchises didn't cost $70,000,000 to make and required every Dreamcast owner to buy the game twice to break even.
Shenmue III missed its chance. If they released it in the last generation like they planned, it wouldn't have been such a loss since a Hell of a lot of that money was invested into research and development of an almost complete Saturn version that was being worked on as early as 9 years before the release of the polished up Dreamcast version. Shenmue II was cheap as chips in comparison, because they already had a prefectly acceptable engine of the time and a bunch of textures to re-use.
If it were to happen now, Shenmue III would have to start from scratch. While they wouldn't have the ridiculous amounts of research to pay for that they did with the first two installments and they don't have the amount of beta developing and what not on the last generation of consoles, game production costs are now a lot higher for any game. And if Shenmue III wanted to be as groundbreaking and shocking as it's predecessor was in 1999, it would have to shove itself right back into the Guiness Book Of Records and retain its title of the most expensive game ever produced.
And so... it's not happening.
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Post by Juliett. Bravo. Alfa. on May 28, 2008 19:14:43 GMT
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Post by madhair60 on May 28, 2008 19:18:54 GMT
It's hard. It's hard. I'm tugging it. Stuff is coming out!
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Post by Arch_one_zero_one on May 28, 2008 19:29:00 GMT
Awesome. Trailer wouldn't work for me, but if its anywhere near the quality of the first game (which I never got to see the ending of...  ) then it should be great. |
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Post by Ringo (2015 Edition) on May 28, 2008 21:04:53 GMT
The new Beyond Good + Evil game for the 360 sounds brilliant. I'm definately keeping my eye out for that. Whenever I can get a 360, that is |
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Post by Pete on May 28, 2008 21:46:17 GMT
A different design choice (more realistic, less cartoony), and although it's a very vague trailer, it's looking rather nice.
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Post by obsidian on May 29, 2008 3:10:28 GMT
Everyone else gets their fanboy prayers answered, where the hell is my Klonoa 3? |
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Post by Baron Canier on May 30, 2008 20:34:59 GMT
That was the oddest trailer I've ever seen.
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Post by segaz on Jun 5, 2008 22:13:43 GMT
Everyone else gets their fanboy prayers answered, where the hell is my Klonoa 3? What you talking about? Hows about my Diddy Kong Racing 2? My Geist 2? My Kula World 2? My Streets of Rage 4? My Resident Evil 2-2? My BK stop 'n swap eggs? My Perfect Dark online? |
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