roman david
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Post by roman david on May 25, 2008 19:36:05 GMT
Do you think it would be worth cheating next year by getting a massive British artist or band to be our entry? Kind of like Sebastien Tellier running for France - a credible artist whose latest album was produced by Guy from Daft Punk (and the song 'Divine' came out before the contest; would that make Dreams of an Absolution eligable?) - or tATu representing Russia a few years ago. I've seen people like Morrissey and Radiohead and Bill Bailey say that they'd want to do Eurovision - why not let them?
It might be considered unfair though, especially with British bands being internationally famous - perhaps if Placebo did a song, you'd get France possibly giving them lots of points because they're already huge in France. But it could give us a chance if we played slightly unfairly... anything to keep Wogan commentating!
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Post by Moo on May 25, 2008 19:39:24 GMT
I dunno, it could work, or it could just make no difference. It'd so [censored]ing rawk if the Stones or someone else ridiculously famous did it. XD Whether they won or not.
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Post by Super Sonic on May 25, 2008 19:39:40 GMT
Funny how all these Eastern Bloc countries hate each other, except when it comes to a crappy music contest.
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Post by The Tikal who had no Toes on May 25, 2008 19:46:24 GMT
Morrissey for Eurovision 2009 plz.
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Post by metric on May 25, 2008 19:58:38 GMT
Bill Bailey for Eurovision.
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Post by Alex on May 25, 2008 19:59:54 GMT
Apparently "they", whoever "they" are (the BBC?) wont let Bill Bailey do it...
Which is ghey.
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Post by Blizz on May 25, 2008 20:00:46 GMT
"I BLEED ON YOUR PANINI!"
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Post by Super Sonic on May 25, 2008 20:01:35 GMT
"Why? Why does it spell 'why'? Because there weren't enough pins for 'oblivion'."
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Post by Ben / Rio on May 25, 2008 21:33:10 GMT
Do you think it would be worth cheating next year by getting a massive British artist or band to be our entry? Kind of like Sebastien Tellier running for France - a credible artist whose latest album was produced by Guy from Daft Punk (and the song 'Divine' came out before the contest; would that make Dreams of an Absolution eligable?) Sending a big British star is by no means cheating, because the guy that just won it for Russia is their equivalent to Justin Timberlake, and the "shady lady" is also a big star back in Ukraine as well. Divine may have been released before the contest, but the official rules state than you can enter any song as long as it is between 2.30 and 3.00 long, and as long as it has not been publically broadcast in any way before October 1st the previous year. As Dreams of an Absolution was featured in a video game released in late 2006, it would only have been eligible to enter the 2007 contest. However, I reiterate that my suggestion is to persuade Bentley Jones to approach the BBC with another song, one that he hasn't featured on his website yet. www.bentleyjones.com |
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Post by metric on May 25, 2008 21:59:47 GMT
We won with Katrina and the Waves a few years back, didn't we?
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Post by The Tikal who had no Toes on May 25, 2008 22:02:17 GMT
Sending a big British star is by no means cheating, because the guy that just won it for Russia is their equivalent to Justin Timberlake, and the "shady lady" is also a big star back in Ukraine as well. Plus No Angels are, or at least were huge in Germany. They're a TV band, kind of like Girls Aloud. They split up a while back but got back together for Eurovision. Didn't do them any favours, mind. |
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Post by Ben / Rio on May 25, 2008 23:43:05 GMT
We won with Katrina and the Waves a few years back, didn't we? Yeah, that was our last win, 1997. People should take them as a guideline of what's winning material for us these days rather Bucks Fizz. Instead of hasbeens and reality rejects, I think next year the BBC should approach some up and coming talent, or even just seek out a few people who need a big break (The Revelations and Cyndi were an example of this) and get either that band/artist themselves or some of our best songwriters to make them a song, because in truth, Britain does have great talent in the music industry. The song should just be anything that can make a great performance and something that would do respectably well in the charts too, instead of just being cheap, camp pop with either a gimmick or just over the top dancing. Countries stopped sending just plain, cheap, typical stuff like Jemini in 2007 (with the odd exception) and sending Andy this year was a bit of a fluke, but a big step in the right direction nonetheless, because the man gave a stellar performance on Saturday and any blame for our result shouldn't go anywhere near him or his song. Next year I would like us to send someone with a good voice who can deliver a high calibre performance. Andy met that criteria. If I'm gonna be specific, I think we should try a dramatic ballad, or something dancey, modern and creative. Speaking of sending dramatic ballads. Germany made a very big throwaway. Tikal's right about the No Angels, they're a big name in Germany, and if it wasn't for their popularity preceding them, look what Germany could have sent to Belgrade. Now that would be a real test to the claim that the big four can't do well no matter what. What a shame she only came second. |
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Post by Metallix Brother on May 26, 2008 1:04:00 GMT
Apparently "they", whoever "they" are (the BBC?) wont let Bill Bailey do it... Which is ghey. why it is? I thought that Bill simply said he was too busy organising a tour for Australia :s (My source is the "Tinselworm" Tour programme, so if your info is more up to date, feel free to notify me by slapping me and calling me a "silly [censored]") |
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Post by Pitt on May 26, 2008 12:30:53 GMT
I think that all of this diplomatic voting is starting to wear a bit thin. It's almost like a sort of cold war fought through the medium of music. ;D
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Post by Mambo's Here! Look Busy! on May 26, 2008 13:12:09 GMT
Apparently "they", whoever "they" are (the BBC?) wont let Bill Bailey do it... Which is ghey. I'm pretty sure Bill Bailey doesn't want his career ruined as well! ;D |
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Post by Alex on May 26, 2008 14:54:10 GMT
He said on his site he was putting himself forward for this year's. Clearly he didn't get accepted.
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Post by Ben / Rio on May 26, 2008 16:53:54 GMT
News just in: Turns out that my suspicions were correct and Bentley Jones did not recieve my first message after he sent a very friendly reply to my follow-up letter at 6 o'clock this morning. He's asked me to run the suggestion by him again and I have, so we'll see what he thinks. Also, a BBC spokesperson has told The Mirror that the United Kingdom will not withdraw in 2009. www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/a96738/bbc-defends-eurovision-funding.html |
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Post by Pombar on May 26, 2008 16:55:08 GMT
Bentley Jones: Pushed around by fans since '08.
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Post by obsidian on May 27, 2008 9:47:48 GMT
Joins the thread late to say that he forgot all about it, didn't watch it, but still thinks it was rubbish anyway and that Terry Wogan is an unfunny [censored].
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Post by The Tikal who had no Toes on May 28, 2008 9:04:56 GMT
You're in luck, he's probably a goner now. It'll be interesting to see who replaces him...probably Cat Deeley or someone like that.
Also, one of my friends reckons Andy Abraham got low votes due to him being black. What with Eastern Europe being very racist and all.
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Post by Arch_one_zero_one on May 28, 2008 17:54:39 GMT
Well thats my sole reason for watching in future gone then, can't play 'drink along with Wogan' without any Wogan now, can I?
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Post by Blizz on May 28, 2008 19:51:47 GMT
WE should comment on Eurovision. Though it'd probably degenerate into smutty jokes and comments about knobs and tits rather than the music.
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Post by Ben / Rio on May 28, 2008 22:11:06 GMT
WE should comment on Eurovision. Though it'd probably degenerate into smutty jokes and comments about knobs and tits rather than the music. When did Channel 4 employ us? Anyway, Bentley Jones very kindly replied to my suggestion. He said that because he currently has no UK management, he cannot support a track during its application to Eurovision via the BBC, which in itself is a complicated process apparently. But he didn't rule out the possibility for the future and said he was flattered I got in touch about it. 'Tis a shame, but I'm really grateful he even replied. So I guess we (or just I) need to keep the ol' fingers crossed we at least come out of a last place fighting for a better result. There have been proposals that the so called "big four" (France, Germany, Spain and the UK) may lose their automatic places in the final as many people now think this will be an incentive to send better acts to the contest and will encourage other people to vote for us seeing as we'll be just as worth the vote as a country who had to go through the semis. |
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Post by Arch_one_zero_one on May 28, 2008 22:19:02 GMT
There have been proposals that the so called "big four" (France, Germany, Spain and the UK) may lose their automatic places in the final as many people now think this will be an incentive to send better acts to the contest and will encourage other people to vote for us seeing as we'll be just as worth the vote as a country who had to go through the semis. Except they wont because it's all about politics. And am I mistaken in thinking that we get our automatic place because we put more money into Eurovision? I definately heard/read that somewhere. If it is true, then our poor votes tally is even more of a kick in the balls. |
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Post by Ben / Rio on May 28, 2008 22:37:01 GMT
Except they wont because it's all about politics. That really is nothing more than popular opinion. That is true, yes, however the BBC won't withdraw because they think it's very good value for money. It was later revealed somewhere that the BBC contribute something like £175,000 every year, which is peanuts to them. |
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