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Post by chrisengland8 on Jul 25, 2010 0:15:38 GMT
Considering what's been happening in Sonic's World lately, I'd love to see the freedom fighters fall apart, now that Sonic is a Pariah to all the citizens of Mobius. I'd have it first that Knuckles, Tikal and Porker go MIA for a while, as Knuckles moves the Floating Island out of sight. Amy's temper and attitude (like trying to prove that the World doesn't need Sonic) should become a problem with the team, as she gets more angry and starts pushing her friends away. But I'd have it that the ball falls when Shortfuse and Tekno return (How I don't know). I'd have that Amy is mad at them that while they've been hoping from world-to-world, she and Tails are trying to hold everything together. Shorty on the other hand, is shocked to find Sonic's been cast aside, refusing to believe that Sonic would turn coat. After a long row, Amy loses it and almost hits Shorty with her Crossbow. It's at that moment everyone falls out.
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That next few issues would deal with the fallout; how Amy's trying to deal with her temper, Tails is doing what he does best (bring hope to the people of Mobius), and Shorty goes out in search for Sonic, in order to bring him back home.
****** The Idea is that even though Mobius needs the freedom fighters; the freedom fighters need Sonic. So, what do you all think? (It's just a suggestion)
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Post by Raxadian on Jul 25, 2010 1:02:06 GMT
Shorty and Tekno are still in another universe
Sonic is fighting Robotnik, but tries to stay away from the public eye
Tails is now a hero, I want to see him fall, he has no real powers or at least a gun!
Amy is well... dealing with her anger the best way, destroying badniks therapy!
And those fanmade "Teams" they arent worth five cents unless you have one of the main characters leading them.
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Post by Tom on Jul 25, 2010 16:16:43 GMT
I wrote an "everyone falls out" story a couple of years ago but there just isn't room for it. These characters have had too little to do with each other for too long for it to really matter at this point anyway. (Also it creates a total continuity nightmare when there's ten different writers on the comic and nobody knows which order the stories are going to see print in. I mean, difficult enough at this point to do a story where Sonic interacts with any of the supporting cast in the first place.)
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Post by Nam on Jul 25, 2010 17:25:59 GMT
Ooh a speculatory thread I think it'd be a good idea. It's pretty much already happening, with half the freedom fighters turning against Sonic, and another couple away from the action, trapped wherever the egyptian stories occur. I don't think Amy would ever shoot Shorty himself. Amy doesn't seem the type to outright try to kill, or even attack someone if they were on her side. She'd very much a leader, and manages group morale, it wouldn't do her cause any good at all to attack Shorty unless he attacked first. I wrote an "everyone falls out" story a couple of years ago but there just isn't room for it. These characters have had too little to do with each other for too long for it to really matter at this point anyway. (Also it creates a total continuity nightmare when there's ten different writers on the comic and nobody knows which order the stories are going to see print in. I mean, difficult enough at this point to do a story where Sonic interacts with any of the supporting cast in the first place.) Ah, theories confirmed to be wrong. So much for speculating. Seriously, what's wrong with letting the people who can't read the comic's Yahoo group have there theories and not answering for certain? Sometimes speculating is harmless fun, sometimes it comes up with interesting "what if..."'s, and sometimes it shows actually who might or might not make good future writers. I do like the idea of a big re-grouping, having all the gang back together again, but keeping them apart, ironically enough, makes them easier all to manage, so that all the different script writers can have there scripts happen without resorting to masses and masses of discussion about who gets there way with the group. It is totally plausable to keep the core group together and still have other stories (even without resorting to a bunch of made up filler fancharacters), but that restricts what other writers can do, hence the conscious decision to split, one which I don't think will be resolved for a long while save for the big significant number scripts. But it's all to do with the current active cast. There are actually more ongoing story arcs now more than ever. Currently we have: - Sonic's quest for redemption against a Mobius that no longer wants him as hero
- The neverending war against Robotnik
- Tails' and/or Amy's exploits trying to keep the world safe from Robotnik
- Knuckles' quest to learn more about his people, assisted by Porker and Tikal
- Tekno and Shortfuse trapped in another world
- The Chaotix's efforts to recover the Special Zone
- Rouge messing about with an elephant
Further to this, there are several pontential dangling plot threads (which somebody who's paying more attention can list), and all of these can be picked up on at any one time. Until some of these arcs start to close, it's going to tricky to feasably justify putting the cast together again. 250 was a stretch at the best, and even in that Tekno and Shorty weren't involved, and the Chaotix were only loosely tied in with Knuckles. It's just about closing some of these plots, and telling the writers to write something more group based
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Post by Tom on Jul 25, 2010 19:55:44 GMT
Ah, theories confirmed to be wrong. So much for speculating. Seriously, what's wrong with letting the people who can't read the comic's Yahoo group have there theories and not answering for certain? Sometimes speculating is harmless fun, sometimes it comes up with interesting "what if..."'s, and sometimes it shows actually who might or might not make good future writers. That wasn't speculation, it was a pitch. And pretty close to a pitch I made close to two years ago. Hence I was offering insight. And although the script I wrote won't make it into the comic, I think it generated an idea on Jamie's part - hence Amy's attitude in this issue - which I suspect ironically inspired this thread...
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Post by chrisengland8 on Jul 26, 2010 21:52:44 GMT
Yeah, that attitude is 25% inspired this idea. Like I said, it's just a suggestion.
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Post by Eleonora B.M on Jul 29, 2010 20:00:20 GMT
well, a little cold in the ever so strong team, is cooler and more realistic.
about Shorty and Tekno beeing a cause of Amy's anger....well, I see it more like the opposite, she's frustraited because they're lost just who knows were and she can't help her friends and doesn't even know if they're ok.
But mabe one interesting thing could be seeing an unexpected side of Tails......like in a some sort of way: start to seacretly enjoy having the spotlight on him! After so many years of beeing a sidekick and the eternal number 2, tails could start hopping seacretly that things could stay that way a little longer and that's the reason why he didn't tell Amy that Sonic is actually innocent. On the other hand we could have an interesting fight between Sonic and Amy just before everything starts getting better.
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Post by Emilybee on Jul 30, 2010 16:20:07 GMT
I'd actually like to see Amy shun Sonic quite badly, maybe even unwittingly put him ina dangerous position because she is driven by the blindness to Sonic's innocence. Only to later to discover to her horror he was innocent all along.
As for Tails, I don't think he has told anyone because no one would believe him.
Honestly, I think Knuckles and Amy both will be hard pressed to trust Sonic until the be "he's innocent" revealed. And I half expect THAT to happen when Sonic's at the height of the problems and Sonic's been put in a really harsh position because of it. I.e. he is about to die or something along those serve lines.
But I always want more then STC can supply...^_^'
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Post by Supermorff on Jul 30, 2010 16:23:16 GMT
Amy maybe, but not so sure about Knuckles. Was he even around when Sonic was being discredited?
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Post by Charles on Jul 30, 2010 19:30:46 GMT
He helped spring Sonic from jail and "Sonic" went on to punch him & try to kill everyone, so he's not going to be thinking too well of the guy...
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Post by Raxadian on Jul 30, 2010 20:37:45 GMT
My view of Knuckles is that he hates Sonic and he uses every excuse to fight with him...
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Post by Supermorff on Jul 31, 2010 8:04:37 GMT
@charles> Oh, yeah, forgot. Probably should read through those issues again. Raxadian> Never really saw STC Knuckles like that. He finds Sonic exasperating, sees him as a showoff and thinks he causes a lot of trouble, but never hated the guy. When has he ever properly fought with Sonic since their first meeting?
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Post by Nam on Jul 31, 2010 8:18:50 GMT
I always viewed Knuckles as having contempt for Sonic, for the fact that he acts like he has responsibilities, and it's his duty to stop Robotnik, which Knuckles actually considers ridiculous as Sonic is putting himself into this responsibility, while Knuckles is forced into a life (or several lives) of constantly guarding a set of emeralds. Sonic's choosing to go into a responsibility he doesn't necessarily need to, while Knuckles is forced into a responsibility without any choice, and on that respect Knuckles is partially jealous, and probably thinks Sonic's a bit daft to take an unnecessary burden like he does.
Plus Sonic's generally unlikeable anyway, whih probably doesn't help much.
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Post by Mambo's Here! Look Busy! on Jul 31, 2010 9:58:51 GMT
I get the impression that Knuckles tolerates Sonic - he knows what he is capable of and the lengths he would go to. So part of me thinks he won't be surprised if he finds out about the Chaos Tap - but also I expect he will want to give Sonic a thick ear for doing it. I also think he may be too preoccupied with following Zachary to go out of his way to fight Sonic. Also there's Porker around, he may throw his Two Cents in and say he doesn't want to see his friends fighting, the poor bugger has issues with violence and stuff.... But yes, I would definately like to see Amy kick Sonic's ass. That would be awesome. Please do it. Do iiiiiiit!! It would be such a reversal in her character, it would be hilarious.
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Post by chrisengland8 on Mar 28, 2014 9:59:02 GMT
Another thing I came up with recently is the idea of certain villains exploiting the KBC Smear Campaign by exposing other Freedom Fighter's flaws, examples:
Since the Family originate from the Special Zone, I'd have it that they've had dealings in the pass with the criminal "Hammerhead"! Because of this, they are well aware of a certain "Oscar the Pig"! Big Bill Screwloose/ Ultra-Duck, who tried to make the people of Mobius lose faith with the Freedom Fighters, could expose some of Tekno's dark past; don't forget Tekno did know who he was, so it's safe to say he knows a little something as well.
With all this, KBC would make the people of Mobius question if ANYONE in the Freedom Fighters can be trusted!
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Post by L. T. Dangerous on Mar 28, 2014 14:01:32 GMT
Wow, really, three and a half years?
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Post by Fools in Miru on Apr 19, 2014 1:05:06 GMT
Another thing I came up with recently is the idea of certain villains exploiting the KBC Smear Campaign by exposing other Freedom Fighter's flaws, examples: Since the Family originate from the Special Zone, I'd have it that they've had dealings in the pass with the criminal "Hammerhead"! Because of this, they are well aware of a certain "Oscar the Pig"! Big Bill Screwloose/ Ultra-Duck, who tried to make the people of Mobius lose faith with the Freedom Fighters, could expose some of Tekno's dark past; don't forget Tekno did know who he was, so it's safe to say he knows a little something as well. With all this, KBC would make the people of Mobius question if ANYONE in the Freedom Fighters can be trusted! Maybe it gets even worse from there... *The Syndicate was a cover up for the thirteen member TRUE Syndicate, consisting of the thirteen darkest hearts on Mobius! *Blaze is part of The Family! *Sol returns to evil! *Several lesser Freedom Fighter teams are exterminated! *The Marxio World, ruled by Princess Rostalin, begins an attack on Earth! *And all this time, Robotnik takes over successfully!
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Post by Adamis on Apr 22, 2014 12:01:46 GMT
Mods should lock this topic before Miru writes more silly stuff.
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