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Post by Hades on Feb 12, 2004 14:16:50 GMT
Fair point ;D While Im on the point of extras, Im sure Ive read somewhere Porkers called Porker Harris!!! Whats with that, is that sega or archie or whaa?? in STC he is Poker Lewis. Iv never seen him in the archie series
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Post by Mambo's Here! Look Busy! on Feb 12, 2004 14:18:16 GMT
I know, just wondering which "universe" calls him that? what other ones are there?
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Post by JayTee on Feb 12, 2004 14:18:47 GMT
He's the genius. Hehe A pig genius.
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Post by Mambo's Here! Look Busy! on Feb 12, 2004 14:40:53 GMT
Now in the games they say Tails is the techno-genius!! Thats cool but isnt he sposed to be the cute sidekick? I was wondering why in SA2 as Tails ur stuck in a machine, but I love flying around the chao gardens!! hee hee!!
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Post by lileh on Feb 12, 2004 18:30:42 GMT
Thats cos Americans need action and fear whereas UK readers are more interested in decent character devellopment Action and fear? Archie doesn't even have action and fear. It has...a storyline painful to anyone over the age of six to read. There's nothing about it that I like. It's a little kids' comic. On a side note...action and fear can work quite well, in moderation...you have to do it right, though.
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Post by LanDiSama on Feb 12, 2004 18:53:01 GMT
I suppose that was to add to the "fear" someone mentioned. The consequences of being captured where far worse than in STC and SegaSonic, once you were robot, you were robot forever. I was never very fond of the cartoon (although it was an improvement on the other Sonic cartoons), it just seemed... un-Sonic like. Like someone said the only thing making it Sonic, was Sonic, Tails and Robotnik. And I really hated Sally!! Haha, oh well. I'm so glad we had our own comic in the UK ^_^
Did Japan have it's own Sonic comic? I wonder what it would have been like....
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Post by JayTee on Feb 12, 2004 19:27:26 GMT
i dont think there was an official one but I have seen several fan manga comics.
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Post by Gohunks on Feb 12, 2004 20:11:11 GMT
It's a nice theory, there's also the Sonic anime Movie to consider, where Robotnik rules the Land of Darkness while Sonic and co live on the Land of the Sky above the surface of the planet. Trouble is I'm not sure how keen everyone here is on the Archie series I know I'm not, although it would be interesting to see how the different Sonic's react. If I remember correctly Sonic is Sally's boyfriend in the Archie series, whereas our Sonic doesn't seem to want to be tied down to anyone It might be a nice idea for a one-shot or something. Can't wait to see that Sonic series when you're the boss of your own company ;D Cat fight: Amy vs Sally Place your bets now
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Post by JayTee on Feb 12, 2004 20:24:57 GMT
Well Amy will pretend not to like Sonic while Sally accusers her of it, then Sally would say fine hes still mine even if you dont like him. Amy would then say she does like him just to disagree with Sally. Sally would draw first blood by slapping Amy after that comment and thus the fight shall begin with Amy totally kicking Sally's ass cos she's pink and pink is a funky colour. besides Sally isnt even a hedgehog.
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Post by AgentGrey on Feb 12, 2004 20:44:03 GMT
Well the idea of AU continuities is pretty much a given, its like in Megaman, if you really really think that Megaman.EXE had anything to do with the original series of games, you are an idiot. Or at the very least missinformed. Archie comics DO have character development, in fact if anything it suffers from an OVERdose of the darnstuff. Archie-sonic is essentially a sci-fi/drama series, where as STC was a lot more fast paced, it had to be when its given space per comic was 7 pages or less. doesnt leave time for much else. But in doing so kept hold of a lot more of the feeling that sonic had in the games, fast, action packed and thinking on his feet. Sonic is definatly the hero with the rest of the freedom fighters being almost overglorifired sidekicks (except for tails, who probly is a union card holder of the sidekick association and there fore an Official one ) saying that, while the archie sonic verse seems more like that of a team, with its ups and downs, STC-verse Team seems to act in an almost milletary way. They know what they can do, they know what their comrades can do, its just a question of doing it. They would also seem to try some what harder as to almost live up to Sonic's expectation. The Archie characters seem to share almost as much of the spot light as sonic seems to and hold much more of a team effect in my eyes. but good LORD...the art...why? and oi vey the colouring that happens when they DO get art... Ive read a varied amount of issues of Archie, and it seems to cant decide if it wants to be a gag comic or a serious story. for me a lot of the hating goes towards Archie sonic in a VERY early issue I bought when I was about 10 and visiting the US. Where sonic is picking flowers... to cheer up sally.... while smiling and talking to... betsy butterfly... DEAR GOD WHY?! The guy that wrote that got PAID?! jebus man, it just shouldnt happen My other gripe about archie is with robotnik's design, they tried to hard to make him evil and sinister, and seems to half the time come off as a parody of all he's meant to be. where as the robotnik STC has based upon the looks of the AOSTH cartoon, while initially silly looking has become a large imposing tremendos evil looking force. Sacrey still is the look of pure innocence he seemed to pull at times, like in the drakon saga where he is talking to the empoerer watching sonic fight. And coming back to stories written that involved sonics from various continuities, I always wanted to do one myself, and have to be honest, the Archie/SATam universe seems the most fun to play with. What with its bleack prospects and such, heroes wandering in seems to be the expected thing. Plus I'd really like to see STC-sonic and Sega-sonic show archie sonic up. Of the 3 sonics I saw them like this: Archie: The Scared and almost amatuerist in his doings, rookie, despite his bravado and over the top nature. He is the youngest, and filled with a lot of angst over family and relationships. Addmitadly im having a hard time thinking bonus points for him, but he is very loyal and refuses to quit way after he should have. STC: The Smartest of the 3 has a trick up his sleave at all times and is ready to react to any situation with a plan, may not be the best plan but still, a plan. Only short comings being his Ego and dark nature (super S) (and he *IS* a bit of an [censored] I will admit, as pointed out by Hyperkux) Sega: Hands down, the MAN of cool, he does what he likes when he likes, because he really just CAN, mostly unphasable and a little reckless. He strikes me as a bit of a technophobe, not just because of the destroying robots, but I cant really think of a time he's used anything electrical unless he's HAD to. but to be fair, since your playing a game, there isnt a lot of time for that sort of thing, but its something thats kicked around my head for a while, and why tails is so handy, because I doubt sonic wants to even THINK of touching that drat hmm, maybe I will write something, depends if I can find the time.
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Post by HyperKnux99 on Feb 12, 2004 22:17:34 GMT
i think all of you are being stupid your saying archie sucks when all of u haven't read any or very little of the comics also sounds like you started reading like 4 months ago meaning of course you'll be lost and nothing will make sense. if I was to read the fleetway comic starting at #120 i'd be lost and would hate it. so I think you should shut up until u have read all of them then you can talk about wheither or not u like them. also the thing about it haven't characters that werent' in the games look who's talking where's porker shortfuse, brutus ? huh what game are they from? none so dont' use that as an escuse. and I think archie is better cuz its stories are longer and has better character development (him haveing a relationship... thats not character development) and better stories. (if we forget about that year that they had the three stories an issue those sucked.) plus sonic is an asshoe in the uk version all he does is says he's great and makes fun of tails after reading your comics I wanted to punch him in the face. so shut up and read the archie comics before u say u hate them.
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Post by JayTee on Feb 12, 2004 22:37:26 GMT
Well at this point in time Id like to point out that people from UK love STC whereas obviously people from USA love Archie the reason for that is the characters are developped to be liked by that specific audience. Obviously we arent going to like the yankie version whereas you guys wont like the limy version. So think about it before you say you want to punch Sonic (Stc) none of us said we hated Archie we only said we preferred STC because it appeals to us more. If you really hate STC maybe you're in the wrong forum!
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Post by HyperKnux99 on Feb 12, 2004 22:43:07 GMT
sorry bout that I spazzed a little.. ok alot but I just hate it when people say its bad when they haven't read all of it. I haven't read all of the uk ones and I think its alright (i don't want to punch sonic) and yea I think u will like the one that your were brought up reading.
sorry again about the spazzing
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Post by JayTee on Feb 12, 2004 22:45:04 GMT
Tis ok I enjoy a good spazzing out once and a while besides it keeps the forums lively.
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Post by HyperKnux99 on Feb 12, 2004 22:47:19 GMT
very tru especially since I went with an opinon not shared with many at this site
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Post by JayTee on Feb 12, 2004 22:48:23 GMT
And I just love a good arguement every now and then. Especially with people who have completly opposite opinions and wont budge.
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Post by HyperKnux99 on Feb 12, 2004 23:04:49 GMT
anyways back to the main topic, mulitple universes some suck(sonic underground) some rock (archie and fleetway.. i'll be pc for the moment) but thats how you should take them that each kind is different and won't be like the kind your use to. I think it would be cool if someone made a comic or something that all of the different sonics, tails, knuckles and dr. robotniks from all of the different univeses and have them have an uber fight. I was going to make a comic like that but I can't draw for my life so I never got around to doing it. oh well w/e
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Post by JayTee on Feb 12, 2004 23:20:12 GMT
If there are so many parallel universes then there should be as many chaos emeralds. So that would be a tough job finding the right ones for each universe if everyone got bunged on the same planet.
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Post by Ellie on Feb 12, 2004 23:22:27 GMT
hey, there is a sonic manga just come out in japan, but the only place you can get it that I know of is amazon japan, and theres no translation,
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Post by JayTee on Feb 12, 2004 23:24:44 GMT
YES I SEE IT NOW this has everything to do with my emerald theory........ my rage has passed..... move along
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Post by HyperKnux99 on Feb 12, 2004 23:39:48 GMT
its ok, its ok, *pats jaytee on the back* you'd think that the country that origanlly made sonic would have more than one manga comic out there? oh well I might just buy it, cuz it is sonic
edit and about the emerald theory they could either get the emeralds from their universe or just not turn into hyper/super mode
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Post by JayTee on Feb 13, 2004 8:51:06 GMT
Are you suggesting we keep Super locked up inside Sonic, sounds like someone's afraid of total 'chaos'
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Post by Ellie on Feb 13, 2004 16:41:01 GMT
no way, can't have that happen. super sonic need to be there, he's just too cool to leave out
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Post by LanDiSama on Feb 13, 2004 22:55:07 GMT
Heheh, I didn't mean I hated the Archie series ^^;; I did see most of the cartoons back in the day on Channel 4. One thing that sticks in my mind was my utter disappointment when Sonic and Sally went to the Floating Island and Knuckles didn't even get a mention! I guess what bothered me most about the Archie cartoon was how Tails was left out of it mostly, or only played a very minor role. But I did like some of the story ideas in it, and Bunnie Rabbot was a cool character, half robot/half rabbit.
One thing I'm curious about, I saw a copy of the more recent Archie Sonic comics (although couldn't afford it at the time) and noticed they had added Amy Rose, how does this work with Sally as Sonic's girlfriend? I'm intrigued.
AGRH!! I'd forgotten about Sonic Underground... I really didn't think much of that series... the less said about that the better.
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Post by Ellie on Feb 13, 2004 23:00:52 GMT
i agree totally LanDiSama, esp. about the floating island bit. knuckles was in sonic underground even, they could have ahd him in that. in the archie series, Amy was only a little kid, which is why she wasn't sonic's girlfriend, then this stupid thing happend where seh aged into a teenager, but they still woudln't have her in love with sonic, just an admirer, thatst he prob, they've got the characters all wrong.
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