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Post by whiteetheechidna on May 6, 2004 18:00:45 GMT
my fav stc artist has got ta be richard elson his storys were always the first storys in the comic lol
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Post by Zerolus on May 6, 2004 18:45:03 GMT
Is this just Egmont's STC or can it include STC-O? My favourite from STC is Richard Elson and my favourite STC-O artist is Zak.
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Post by Tom on May 6, 2004 19:11:05 GMT
I mean no disrespect to the artists on the online edition; they do a fantastic job, but they're still in the process of learning (I don't think there's anyone on it older than twenty-one), and anyone who reckons that at this point they're better than the original STC artists probably needs their head examining. Not that they won't become better... just think back to Richard Elson's first strips... and imagine what his work must have looked like before then! My personal favourites are Nigel Dobbyn (his lines have a wonderful charisma to them and he enhanced them with subtle, beautiful paints - he's the best painting cartoonist I've ever seen, in fact), Richard Elson (he was pretty bad to begin with, but he really grew as an artist on STC, and by the end he was putting the others to shame), Nigel Kitching (an odd choice, you might think, but his stuff was simple and always very enjoyable to look at) and Mick McMahon (severely misplaced on Sonic, but the man is a true comics visionary). The STC artists were for the most part great - there were very few sub-par artists on the book, and when they were there, they didn't last very long. (Although some artists, McMahon and Andy Pritchett in particular, were just on the wrong book, I think.) All the artists had a great understanding of telling a story clearly through pictures, which is the fundamental purpose of being a cartoonist - if you can't do that, you're screwed (although there are people who can't and get a shocking amount of work in comics). There aren't many sub-par artists on the online STC either, but I don't believe any of them have yet hit the high standard set by the STC visionaries (although some have come close!).
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Post by whiteetheechidna on May 7, 2004 0:30:38 GMT
well thats ur opinion ;D
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Post by Spydaman on May 7, 2004 7:36:30 GMT
Elson was pretty bad? ? Elson was awesome from day one man! XD From the moment he started drawing on the comic he became the best there. After him for me comes Roberto Corona. You can see how much he blossomed as an artist throughout the comic's run. Next for me would be Nigel Dobbyn. I like Nigel Kitchings Decap work was great too. No one could draw decap as good as he could
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Post by Blizz on May 7, 2004 10:08:48 GMT
STC-O: Thalia STC- Richard Elson
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Post by Zak29 on May 7, 2004 12:36:16 GMT
Heh! Cheers Andy My favourite would have to be Richard Elson, if it wasn't for him I don't know if I'd've got into comics. Fantastic artist and a really cool guy. After seeing his art on issue 9 I think, I decided I wanted to draw comics for a living, that was when I was 7! Nigel Dobbyn was also brilliant, lovely painting!
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Post by Omochao on May 7, 2004 13:03:23 GMT
Elson all the way.
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Post by whiteetheechidna on May 8, 2004 0:00:41 GMT
i was just reading over some of the early issues of stc and realised that yes elson wasn't that good in the first few comics......
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Post by Zerolus on May 8, 2004 10:49:40 GMT
Didn't Elson start drawing for STC in #7?
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Post by Tom on May 8, 2004 10:56:37 GMT
Elson was pretty bad? ? Elson was awesome from day one man! XD From the moment he started drawing on the comic he became the best there. He had such tough competition from Mike Hadley and Woodrow Phoenix... Yeah, Rob Corona is great, although he wasn't one of my favourites on STC. His "Welcome to Heck" strip is brilliant!
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Post by ashurathecomic on May 9, 2004 23:15:14 GMT
In my opinion, Richard Elson and Nigel Kitching are the best Artist/Writer duo I've seen in a long time, although Nigel Dobbyn was really great too.
--Ray
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Post by Zerolus on May 9, 2004 23:53:50 GMT
Mark Eyles was a good writer as well. I liked his character: Nutzan Bolt. "Oh golly, I wish Sonic was here" "HE USED THE 'S' WORD!" "You don't like it when I say Sonic do you?" "HE USED THE 'S' WORD AGAIN! That's it, now you're finished..." "And you're melting." "What?!" That was from 'Zonerunner & the big freeze, part 4' I thought that little secne I just typed above was hilarious.
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Post by Dragonsteincole on May 10, 2004 9:08:11 GMT
Ahh... Nutzan Bolt!
STC-O: Thalia and Zac... no-one has come close to their greatness **Slapped by the other STC-O artists**
StC: Nigel Dobbyn (for the stunning colours), and Casanovas (because good things come in small packages... he did about 2-3 HIGH quality strips, and nomore)
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Post by Admin Droid on May 10, 2004 23:47:03 GMT
Richard Elson was always excellent.
But I liked Nigel Dobbyn's early and late work particularly, as well. His genre stuff didn't always work for me as well, although at least he had a good time doing it. His last few stories were back on top form though, although it was a pity the Crimson Cobra conclusion was so evidently rushed (not surprisingly: I think he coloured about 25 pages in three issues).
Corona's stuff was great, especially with Pritchett colouring. I always liked the stories that he did which had a clear emotional focus. "Boiling Point" made particularly good use of his talents for getting a lot of drama out of situations that were basically talking heads.
McMahon was my favourite on the Stringer comedies, making a few quite formulaic scripts seem hilarious by playing them straight. A lot of the stuff by Flint and Corona started to feel like Beano stories in the framing and the designs of the panels. But McMahon's characters were so bold and his monsters so outrageous (and his background characters so priceless) that he made work a lot of stories I'd probably not have enjoyed in other hands, like "Making the News" and "Fan Friction".
I also thought Nigel Kitching's art rocked, and his painted colours were tremendous. His work on "Revenge of Trogg" was a big reason why the story worked so well: his characters always had so much energy, and when you had a maniac like Trogg that really helped. Lovely.
On non-Sonic stuff, I loved Jon Haward's strips. I recognised his name and Richard Elson's from the UK Turtles comic where both had impressed me beforehand.
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Post by Samface on May 11, 2004 13:30:17 GMT
On non-Sonic stuff, I loved Jon Haward's strips. I recognised his name and Richard Elson's from the UK Turtles comic where both had impressed me beforehand. Elson worked on the Turtles comic?? That was the first comic I ever regularly bought! *goes to ferret them out*
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Post by Zak29 on May 11, 2004 15:13:18 GMT
He also did some work for the 'Toxic Crusaders' comic (plus various very old 2000ad's).
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Post by Balls on May 17, 2004 17:27:03 GMT
Richard Elson was the best. His early strips weren't that bad, the middle strips were stunning, but at the end when everybody had coloured eyes, it was, no offense, not very good.
By the way, does anybody know how I can become an artist for stc?
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Post by Tom on May 17, 2004 20:59:37 GMT
I thought his last bunch of strips were his best ever.
Try sending some art samples to submissions@stconline.co.uk (sequentials - ie comic strip pages - would be recommended, I expect)
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Post by Sin on May 18, 2004 12:39:37 GMT
I gotta say Richard Elson, he was the only STC artist that I kept an eye out for when the original comic was still on sale.
And Nights316, if you want to work on the comic I suggest PMing either Ed or MikeC with a quick comment because I think they may have a sample script that they could send you to draw. But if you do Toms way that would probably work too.
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Post by Maia on May 18, 2004 17:55:46 GMT
Elson was my god, but I also liked...um....Roberto Thingee.
Elson always made the characters seem really cool, and he was able to convey some actual emotion in the faces, which is apparently hard to do for cartoon animals
Anyway, Mr. Elson was a huge influence on the way I drew the Sonic characters.....he has much to answer for.
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Post by Tom on May 18, 2004 19:32:37 GMT
I was under the impression that "End of the World" was the sample script...
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Post by Maia on May 18, 2004 19:42:45 GMT
I was under the impression that "End of the World" was the sample script... How does one go about the submissions process?
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Post by ashurathecomic on May 18, 2004 19:53:50 GMT
Anyway, Mr. Elson was a huge influence on the way I drew the Sonic characters.....he has much to answer for. He has an influence on the way I try to draw Sonic charaters... Emphasis on try. --Ray
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Post by Maia on May 18, 2004 19:57:38 GMT
He has an influence on the way I try to draw Sonic charaters... Emphasis on try. --Ray I keep trying to develop a style that's different from his, but I just can't. Damn you Elson, you hijacked my brain!
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