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Post by Omega Wants Cake on Mar 30, 2004 13:31:47 GMT
This arguement seems to keep springing up here and there around the Sonic Fandom, so this seems as good as any time to ask the Immortal Question.
We have Metal Sonic the most evil of the three, built by Robotnik to challenge Sonic in a life or death brawl. Knuckles the misguided and somewhat guliable guardian of the Chaos Emeralds, and finally Shadow, a newcomer to the field created years ago by Dr Gerald Robotnik to be the Ultimate lifeform.
Any others you feel needed to be on the list please specify...
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Post by ChaosX3 on Mar 30, 2004 18:20:57 GMT
How about Robotnik ¬.¬;
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Post by Retro on Mar 30, 2004 20:11:59 GMT
I definetly have to say Metallix, he is just so cool and the battles were amazing between them in the comic.
*Drools looking at the Sonic Terminator battle again before falling into a coma through sheer pleasure*
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Post by Omega Wants Cake on Mar 30, 2004 20:13:34 GMT
Robotnik is excluded becuase he is the Arch Nemisis not rival. I'm referring to characters that go head to head with Sonic through gameplay, who match his own abilities in combat. Robotnik fights Sonic with the use of Badniks, fancy battle suits and mechs, he doesn't fight Sonic fist to fist (Though that would be pretty intresting -_-') |
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Post by Retro on Mar 30, 2004 20:19:53 GMT
Robotnik is excluded becuase he is the Arch Nemisis not rival. I'm referring to characters that go head to head with Sonic through gameplay, who match his own abilities in combat. Robotnik fights Sonic with the use of Badniks, fancy battle suits and mechs, he doesn't fight Sonic fist to fist (Though that would be pretty intresting -_-') Hmm, that would indeed be interesting, a case of the rebounded spin attack might apear again ;D *Thinks of it and litterally laughs himself to death* |
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Post by Ben2k9 on Mar 30, 2004 22:48:36 GMT
Metal Sonic all the way!
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Post by Zerolus on Mar 30, 2004 23:02:51 GMT
I would say Shadow, not Metal Sonic. Rivals just want to out do each other. Not kill each other.
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Post by Sin on Mar 30, 2004 23:18:53 GMT
Out of that list, I would say Shadow. Being a rival works both ways and I just don't feel that Sonic thinks of Metal Sonic as his rival. Metal Sonic isn't a very good rival since he keeps losing and he never seems to give that much trouble for Sonic. Knuckles used to be Sonics rival (he still is a bit in the comic), but in the games he has gone to being a rival to being just a friend. Shadow is the only true rival for Sonic for now. They are similar in ability and they are similar in the way that they both have a strong desire to win.
But in the end, the perfect rivals would be two people of equal strength and ability, and since it has been shown again and again that no one can match up to Sonic, it is clear that he will never be able to have a proper rival. Perhaps that is why he portrays a large ego, it is only because he desires someone to come and be able to defeat him. But I think I am digging a bit to deep now, so I will shut up.
*Head explodes*
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Post by Turbocharge on Mar 30, 2004 23:21:07 GMT
good point....
hmm... before sa2, I would have said knuckles. now, however, I have to say shadow.
i'd like to say metal, but he hasn't appeared all that many times.
sonic 2, sonic and knuckles, sonic heroes... his cameos in sa and sa2 don't count, but what other games was he in?
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Post by HyperKnux99 on Mar 30, 2004 23:25:30 GMT
i'll say knuckles because he's been in more games than shadow thus a longer rivalry, and I dont' think shadow really cares about sonic anymore.
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Post by Spydaman on Mar 31, 2004 15:33:02 GMT
Ok I'm gonna answer this from two angles.
First the STC angle.
In STC it'd definately be Knuckles, although the two have put aside a few of their differences to work together on some occasions, I do still believe there is that rivalry between them.
In terms of the games it's a lil bit harder.
You kinda get the impression that Shadow doesn't really care enough about Sonic's presence to consider him a rival. Sonic and Knux do clash on occasion but not as much as before. I'd say both are pretty good contenders to be Sonic's rival, maybe Knuckles more so.
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Post by Omega Wants Cake on Mar 31, 2004 22:17:12 GMT
Personally and IMO its Metal Sonic, mostly because of the flesh Vs machine angle to it. The Sonic Terminator was one of my most favorite sagas of all time. Finally Sonic was given an opponent who matched him in speed and was practically impervious to any physical damage. In the games Metal was a cool boss, and no matter how many times he brought it, he'd keep comming back more powerfull then before, to the point where he even rebelled against his creator and set his own purpose in life. Metal also got a great part in the OAV as Sonic's identical twin (thanks to some memory scanning), ending with one of the most sad endings ever.  So there you have it. ^_^' |
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Post by Zerolus on Apr 2, 2004 0:36:44 GMT
Well the thing is really, is that Metal Sonic wants to KILL Sonic. Despite the fact that they are equal in speed and combat abilities, Sonic and Metal Sonic are enimies. Sonic and Shadow, however, is a different story. Both Sonic and Shadow are equal. However, they don't want to kill each other. And Shadow wants to prove he is the ultimate life form by defeating, not killing, Sonic in battle. Thus that makes them rivals.
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Post by Omega Wants Cake on Apr 2, 2004 9:17:14 GMT
Well the thing is really, is that Metal Sonic wants to KILL Sonic. Despite the fact that they are equal in speed and combat abilities, Sonic and Metal Sonic are enimies. Sonic and Shadow, however, is a different story. Both Sonic and Shadow are equal. However, they don't want to kill each other. And Shadow wants to prove he is the ultimate life form by defeating, not killing, Sonic in battle. Thus that makes them rivals. Somehow I get the impression that Shadow wouldn't care less if Sonic brought it.... |
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Post by Blizz on Apr 2, 2004 10:29:05 GMT
"Noooo! Why?! I had it all! I am the ultimate overlord! Metal Sonic! I am the real Sonic!"
I think Metal's a stronger rival. He's been around longer, he wants to get Sonic out of the way to be the real Sonic, and it's like the whole good and evil thing. Shadow's awesome, but it's hard to decide whose side he's on.
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Post by Zerolus on Apr 3, 2004 1:07:13 GMT
On Sonic Heroes, he wanted to get Eggman to know who he really is (and he is a clone). Plus he didn't want to get Sonic, however he still challenged him when they met.
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Post by Omega Wants Cake on Apr 3, 2004 14:13:31 GMT
On Sonic Heroes, he wanted to get Eggman to know who he really is (and he is a clone). Plus he didn't want to get Sonic, however he still challenged him when they met. ...and knocked him into the swamp, (Unless your playing as Team Sonic). |
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Post by SuperSonic on Apr 3, 2004 22:54:28 GMT
What I want to know is, if Robotnik hated Sonic and Knuckles so much (the characters, not the game!) why did he make robots out of them? On numerous occasions??!
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Post by HyperKnux99 on Apr 3, 2004 22:58:18 GMT
ever heared the experession "fight fire with fire"
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Post by Ellie on Apr 3, 2004 22:59:24 GMT
Knuckles. Always the best rival, always will be. sorry, shadow fans, but I don' t see shadow as being as good, he's ok, but knucks is too cool.
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Post by Zerolus on Apr 11, 2004 2:05:29 GMT
Knuckles is cool. But Sonic and Knuckles are more like friends now than rivals.
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