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Post by Oz on Jun 24, 2004 21:54:13 GMT
Hey Guys, just wondering if you've planned any stories after you've finished the Shadow Story. You probaly hav'nt seen as though this does'nt finish until next year, and even if you have I doubt you'll want to release info about it.
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Post by Zerolus on Jun 24, 2004 21:59:08 GMT
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That's a bit far, don't you think? It could be years before they finish the Shadow Arc.
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Post by madhair60 on Jun 24, 2004 22:06:17 GMT
. . . That's a bit far, don't you think? It could be years before they finish the Shadow Arc. LOL! Sorry.
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Post by Admin Droid on Jun 24, 2004 22:28:39 GMT
When the project first began, we were picking up where reprints left off with #185. The Shadow arc was designed to be a complete and exciting arc on its own and to set up an exciting new storyline -- and new premise for the comic -- that would begin in issue 200 (much as "The Final Victory" brought in a new era for the original comic). Instead, we started in #224 and my conception of what's happening has changed a bit. Which has actually worked out quite well, because it means my #200 ideas can be used in #250 and I have space for an arc in the meantime that will turn Sonic's world upside down.
So basically, yes, we have ideas stretching on far into the distance. But I don't like to think about them too much, because thinking of things several years down the track just does my head in.
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Post by Oz on Jun 24, 2004 22:37:39 GMT
Cool, thats all i've got to say
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Post by Hades on Jun 25, 2004 14:17:35 GMT
I supose they also have the Heros storyline to do (in their own wacky STC way of course )
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Post by Admin Droid on Jun 25, 2004 15:41:02 GMT
That's assuming we even do a 'Heroes' storyline.
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Post by Tom on Jun 25, 2004 19:23:12 GMT
It has a storyline, now?
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Post by Admin Droid on Jun 25, 2004 20:23:17 GMT
Don't ask me. I've hardly played it.
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Post by ChaosX3 on Jun 25, 2004 22:34:49 GMT
Only Team Chaotix have a mere storyline. But it's like every team is working individually. Great teams... ¬_¬;;;
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Post by Balls on Jun 25, 2004 23:45:39 GMT
Well it's good that the Shadow story is way after Sonic Adventure 2's release, 'cos if you can't be bothered to think of a storyline, just nick it from whatever games are about then.
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Post by Ben2k9 on Jun 26, 2004 0:30:13 GMT
im sure they have a story set up for the Heroes saga (if they decide to do it that is lol)
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Post by Adamis on Jun 26, 2004 0:31:37 GMT
Sonic Heroes has a good storyline if you take time to look at the little details...(ask yourselves "why is there Chao to find in the Lost Jungle"?) If you want me to explain it with more details, just tell, I don't want to be off-topic ^^;
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Post by Sin on Jun 26, 2004 0:58:53 GMT
Can you enlighten us Adamis. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Sonic heroes and it is a fairly good game but what I didn't see was any kind of story.
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Post by Adamis on Jun 26, 2004 1:46:14 GMT
Ok. Please forgive my bad english ^^; The game is based on the revenge of Metal Sonic against Sonic. He'll take control of the entire Eggman's army by sealing him in one of his ship of his Egg Fleet. Then, Metal will search the ultimate power. Well, what are the know powerfull "things" in Sonic's world at that time? 1) The Chaos Emeralds 2) (Perfect) Chaos 3) The Ultimate Lifeform known as Shadow the hedgehog. At that time, Chaos hasn't reappeared yet (he will, but in Sonic Battle). And Metal Sonic can obtain his power. How? Chao data (As told in the official SA1 guide, Chaos is an evolved Chao) and Chaos Tail that Froggy had, the tail's data are still in Froggy. We know that the Chao are rare and they live near ruins or in the nature, in jungle... Eggman, from his cell (jail?) hires the Chaotix to free him and to make sure MS (let say it to designate Metal Sonic ) won't have the power! The first and TRUE mission given by Eggman to the Chaotix is to find the Chao in Ocean Palace that the badniks (at MS's service/orders) want to have his data! And this Chao is in ruins of an old civilisation that have a relation with sea, water...what's better for a Chao? Speaking of badniks: In Heroes, thay don't have animals inside them anymore because they are at MS's service. MS claims he's the king of a robot kingdom. As an energy source, he uses the orange energy from the second level, that's why badniks invaded that city and that plant...he'd need to give energy to his robot army, no? (At that time, Sonic & Co are wondering why Eggman is searching for that energy, but they don't know the badniks works for MS...) Return to the Chao: the Chaotix will have to find Chao again (to save them from MS) but this time, in their natural environment, the jungle! The badniks are everywhere and they search the Chao, some Chao are in cages guarded by badniks, others are still free! The Chaotix must do it without getting the attention of the badniks and, naturally, of MS (and the giant frogs), that's why Espio is needed! At the end of the stage, they meet Team Rose, and there's a big quiproquo: Espio ask for Cheese to complete their mission because he sees a Chao, and Cream thinks that it's the Chaotix who kidnapped Chocola (because they want to take Cheese from her)! The second thing MS wants to have Chaos's power is Froggy to get back the tail. At the end of Team Rose's story, MS says "Chaos data copied" when Chocola and Froggy are released. And in the movie where MS transforms, they insist on the creation of the tail, with a different color than the body to show that's an added part! If MS made that fake newspaper showing Sonic kidnapping Chocola & Froggy, it's to make sure Cream will search them with Cheese and to absorb more Chao data! Another thing: Eggman, for his new plan (before it's sabotaged by MS) had choosen the Middle Age/Heroïc Fantasy as a theme. That's why his base is the haunted castle (with the great detail that Eggman's statue change into MS's statue if upside down, detail to make us think about what is going on there...) and the majority of the badniks are Middle-Age-themed (His soldiers, the warriors with hammer and knight's armor, wizards-badniks, etc) and his ultimate vehicle was the Egg Emperor, the chief/boss of that medieval, mechanical army...
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Post by ChaosX3 on Jun 26, 2004 2:01:20 GMT
Great description, Adamis. Exactly how I'd've put it. Although...
IMO: The newspaper was a diversion. If Big and Cream saw Sonic with the 2 things they were searching for (That could've easily been MS in the photograph, having used some data grabbed from Sonic in a previous game) then Team Rose would follow Team Sonic, giving him an easy oppurtunity to grab Cheese and steal Sonic's data.
He made sure Omega would be mad so that he would blow Shadow out at the right moment, and knew that Rouge would come to where the jewels were, having perhaps recieved a tip-off from MS himself. Omega could then track down Eggman. The robot Shadow found that looked like himself would make him ever more anxious to find out the truth. As he stares at it, MS quickly grabs a small piece of data, giving him the Ultimate Lifeform power. And having made the Shadow clones, he can multiply that power AND have DNA from the Biolizard.
He then made sure Eggman was locked away with a walkie talkie, hiring MS's one-time arch nemesis' and the only group that have witnessed him in his previous "Super" form. Eggman, knowing all MS' power routes, ordered Team Chaotix to keep all chao away from him and to take back Grand Metropolis, giving MS less space to operate. He then made them collect rings from Casino Park so as their power would not fall into MS' hands.
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Post by Adamis on Jun 26, 2004 2:03:34 GMT
Good points too, Chaos =)
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Post by Zerolus on Jun 26, 2004 11:40:29 GMT
Excellent work there Adamis and CX3, I couldn't of put it better myself. I never thought about the whole Chao thing. Two Platinum medals and two giant cookies for both of you. *Hands Adamis and X3 the platinum medals and giant cookies*
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Post by mobiusman on Jun 26, 2004 17:20:48 GMT
Excellent work there Adamis and CX3, I couldn't of put it better myself. I never thought about the whole Chao thing. Two Platinum medals and two giant cookies for both of you. *Hands Adamis and X3 the platinum medals and giant cookies* ditto. *takes words back from andy's mouth* *thumped by andy*
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Post by Adamis on Jun 26, 2004 22:44:13 GMT
Is it a chocolate cookie? *sees it is* Weeeee, thanks ;D
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Post by Hades on Jun 27, 2004 12:11:17 GMT
That's assuming we even do a 'Heroes' storyline. I thnik you should. All previouse main line sonic games have been adapted by STC in the past and I would hate to see that tradition broken. I fully expect you to do it in your own unique way much in the same way as your doing the SA2 story at the mo. obviously there are many things from the description of the storyline above that you would need to change.STCs Chaotix would never be hired by Robotnik. for instance.
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Post by JJ on Jun 27, 2004 12:25:37 GMT
Yeah, but Heroes didn't have that much of a storyline....it was pretty much an excuse to get every Sonic character together. The only thing that's even worthy of adaptation is the return of Metal Sonic as a manipulative liquid metal creep. I suggest that they do something like that and ignore everything else.
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Post by Samface on Jun 27, 2004 16:09:57 GMT
Seconded. Then put the Metallixes to bed, forever and ever.
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Post by Hades on Jun 28, 2004 13:03:09 GMT
Yeah, but Heroes didn't have that much of a storyline....it was pretty much an excuse to get every Sonic character together. The only thing that's even worthy of adaptation is the return of Metal Sonic as a manipulative liquid metal creep. I suggest that they do something like that and ignore everything else. even better. gives more of a free reign for STC to do their own things with it.
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Post by mobiusman on Jun 28, 2004 16:52:54 GMT
Seconded. Then put the Metallixes to bed, forever and ever. NO! NO! NO! I WON'T LET YOU! *hit by samface*
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