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Post by Hevs on Jun 18, 2005 20:44:01 GMT
Great episode. it was funny when yo could see that the dalek that was going to kill the girl from outside the window. its little speech lights were flashing no prizes for guessing what it was saying. I got a little confused with the bad wolf thing affecting rose but it was certainly funny when they ntried to pull the tardis open using a truck!
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Post by hyperdude on Jun 18, 2005 20:45:33 GMT
I really liked this episode. I thought the way bad wolf was solved with rose being bad wolf was pretty interesting. I'm just sad that the next ep aint gonna be shown untill cristmas. Man what am I gonna do till christmas? Also they said rose tyler was bad wolf well think again  I control life and death! |
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Post by The Tikal who had no Toes on Jun 18, 2005 21:22:01 GMT
Two things about tonight's episode:
- I want Christopher Eccleston's babies. David Tennant is not going to better him as Dr Who.
- Brilliant ending - loved the idea of Billie being like G-d and controlling time.
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Post by RSM on Jun 18, 2005 21:28:45 GMT
Dude, it's called juxtaposition, and was masterfully well-done I think. It was designed to make us feel just as frustrated and powerless as Rose herself does. And 'cinematography' is the art of how everything looks within a scene, for instance the lighting, mood, actor/camera positioning etc. You're talking about editing. [/ex-media student] Granted the editing was shoddy, but despite the writers intentions of making the viewer emphasise with Rose, it left me with an urge to yell "For *Fruitcage*s Sake!!!". An urge that was satisfied many times during the episode. And in my opinion, I'd have rather seen wave upon wave of Darlek forming up and breaching the station than hearing the squealling of mini tyres. |
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Post by JC on Jun 19, 2005 0:00:27 GMT
I very much enjoyed this episode, granted I found the mini scenes a bit odd and thought it would be better if insted of having long tedius scenes of trying to break off the lock it would have been nice if Rose simply asked the tardis for help?
But I loved the invasion sequences. especially the establishing shot showing the satelite and the huge dalek mothership with those wierd tenticles comming from it... only as the camera zooms in you see its thousands of daleks!
I would thought have liked to have seen some of the daleks effects on earth itself since all we got was that screen changing shape.
But one of the best bits in this episode and the whole series that sumed up some of the primory things that dr who is about (Death, humour, conflict.) was this.
Captain Jack: Ah! thats my favourite floor!
Dalek: Identify yourself...
Anne-droid: you are the weakest link... goodbye!
*Zap! Zap! Zap!*
But when I saw that I did fear a trinny and susanne makeover on a dalek also, and maybe the real big brother going one on one with a dalek comando, or even worse the ladies from how clean is your house boarding a dalek ship and trying to clean it up.
But this episode did leave the daleks open eneded so they can return...
as we found from the previous episode. the anne-droids ray doesnt destroy... it transports...
To bring them back all what the writers have to do is say that Rose only destroyed the daleks around/on the earth, the transport ray could have sent the daleks to some other far place.
But roll on season 2 I say (is it right to call it season 2?) and the comming of the cybermen.
Also from what little we say David looks like he shall be a very good doctor... but is there a risk of him being too posh sounding?
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Post by Retro on Jun 19, 2005 0:23:15 GMT
The Doctor is meant to be posh in a way, if anything Christopher was the one at wrong in playing the part. We shall see soon. The thing about you commenting on the 'transport' beam is interesting....either it indeed just send them back to the ship... Or the more likely one, it did blow them up. You must remember Captain Jack was the one tinkering with it.  Lord only knows what goes through his mind when he see's a barrel and a form of killing the opposition. I am inclined to the second. I'm glad they got it though, it was a small bit and it didnt overpower. *finally come soff the ceiling from Dalek Terror, hitting the 'desk' on the way down* One thing...what happened to the '3 days' needed to make a Delta Wave thing? |
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Post by Samface on Jun 19, 2005 8:54:16 GMT
What of Captain Jack though - they seem to have left him stranded on Satellite 5; I was hoping he would remain as companion throughout the next series. They can't have resurrected him for nothing! I wondered that. I reckon we'll see him back, as he mentioned in "Empty Child" or "Doctor Dances" that he'd lost two years of his memories. I reckons we'll be finding out about that sometime. Anyway, topper episode. My only real complaint is did they have to kill Lynda?  |
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Post by The Tikal who had no Toes on Jun 19, 2005 10:31:00 GMT
I liked having a Mancunian doctor. Particularly because of this dialogue:
Rose: "Why do you sound like you're from the north?"
Dr Who: "Most planets have a north!" (Or something.)
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Post by Ed on Jun 19, 2005 12:28:57 GMT
It was a massive Dalek invasion, them pouring out of the skies! In massive blocks of death pouring forwards... Cut to a chip shop. Best cut of the entire series. And the chip shop scene was by far the more compelling IMO. I thought the Rose god thing was a bit deus ex machina and pulling the worst aspects from Buffy -- a sort of half-coherent idea of "something big" happening because of shining lights. It puts the audience in the position of having to wait around to hear some technobabble explanation which could be more or less anything -- "yeah, she could die, but no he can take it away, but then he dies...". That's the only real weak point of the episode though, and at least it made for a very neat wrap to the bad wolf puzzle, gave us a delightful if rather explosive regeneration scene (which would have been fifty times better if it hadn't been totally spoilt beforehand -- never mind) and most importantly allowed Captain Jack to return. It makes absolute sense that the Dalek God was matched with the Doctor-playing-God -- lots of fun there. The Emperor Dalek was delightful, although I'm a bit disappointed that he appears to have been destroyed so soon -- are we going to have to see them magically returned from the dead again next time they return? Random fun stuff: - Nod of the head to Rose's dad. - The silent killing of Lynda was perfect -- I LOVE when writers for tv and film actually use the silence of space to their advantage. - Paying off the Rose/Mickey plotline about what she has to stick around London for. - The massive big "rescue" truck arriving -- perfect! - Jack kissing Rose and the Doctor goodbye and talking about how he used to be a coward -- aww! - The Anne-Droid's cameo. - The Doctor choosing to be a coward rather than a killer. One thing I thought I noticed in an early scene was Rose holding what looked like Margaret/Blon's cosmic surfboard? Did anyone else catch it or was it something else? Tom: I actually quite like that Jack's alive but not with the TARDIS crew. It's a bit like the way between '24' seasons there's a big gap of 1-3 years. I expect that next time we meet Jack we'll see the same kind of thing happening with him, which should be a lot of fun. |
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Post by Omnion (yes, he is a man) on Jun 19, 2005 12:29:38 GMT
I was hoping Jack would DIE...
Not that I didn't like him, it's just...why bring him back to life and not everyone else? DAMN YOU, ROSE!
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Post by Tom on Jun 19, 2005 15:25:09 GMT
One thing I thought I noticed in an early scene was Rose holding what looked like Margaret/Blon's cosmic surfboard? Did anyone else catch it or was it something else? It's called the extrapolator, isn't it? Captain Jack used it to activate the TARDIS' force field when they rescued Rose at the start of the episode. Incidentally, how are we to know that Captain Jack is the only one Rose/vortex restored life to...? |
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Post by Ed on Jun 19, 2005 19:23:18 GMT
Tom: Aah, that makes sense. I guess other people could have been given their lives back besides Jack but (1) it would be a bit of a cheat having only indicated the one person being revived, and (2) who is there to revive around Satellite 5 who would be much noticed? Not the controllers. Only Lynda really and she got spaced and so would probably take a good deal more 'reassembling' than Jack.
Retro: It was 3 days to calibrate it to destroy the fleet, but the Doctor was just loading it up to wipe out everything in sight -- Earth included. That was what the Dalek Emperor announced when he interrupted the Doctor/Jack conversation.
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Post by d3k on Jun 19, 2005 19:29:53 GMT
But this episode did leave the daleks open eneded so they can return... as we found from the previous episode. the anne-droids ray doesnt destroy... it transports... Didn't it transport people to the Daleks in the first place?  |
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Post by Samface on Jun 19, 2005 19:50:58 GMT
They probably just reappeared three feet to the left. Oh wait that bit was on Sat 5...but then that spoils my rubbish joke...curse you fingers! Stop typing what I think! AAGH! I can't shake them off! *mumbling fades to distance* |
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Post by Tom on Jun 19, 2005 20:41:31 GMT
Tom: Aah, that makes sense. I guess other people could have been given their lives back besides Jack but (1) it would be a bit of a cheat having only indicated the one person being revived, and (2) who is there to revive around Satellite 5 who would be much noticed? Not the controllers. Only Lynda really and she got spaced and so would probably take a good deal more 'reassembling' than Jack. Well, I'd like to have thought at least some of the human race on earth might have survived a little... |
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Post by Ed on Jun 19, 2005 23:25:26 GMT
Who says they didn't? Apart from colonies away from Earth, which were discussed, there were places on Earth that they didn't mention being hit -- Antarctica, South America, parts of Asia and Africa. And who's to say even those places that were hit were eradicate altogether?
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Post by Tom on Jun 20, 2005 11:07:59 GMT
But weren't those places strangled by the smogstorm?
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Post by Smithy on Jun 20, 2005 17:01:48 GMT
I thought the Rose god thing was a bit deus ex machina and pulling the worst aspects from Buffy. That moment was pure Buffy, and as Buffy showed you really cant do that every season finale because it just becomes tedious, think DBZ... |
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Post by Omnion (yes, he is a man) on Jun 20, 2005 17:45:59 GMT
Chris Eccleston's Doctor's catchphrase was "Fantastic!", I pray that Tennant's will be "Smashing!". ;D
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Post by Tom on Jun 20, 2005 18:24:11 GMT
Isn't that Jim Bowen's?
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Post by Chigs! on Jun 20, 2005 18:41:07 GMT
Actualy his is "you've got that... that's safe..." well, its the catchphrase I've knicked form him ^_^ [/offtopic] |
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Post by JJ on Jun 20, 2005 20:33:28 GMT
"Super-smashing-great" ;D Also: "Instead you win a BFH - Bus Fare home". |
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Post by ronson on Aug 24, 2005 12:31:39 GMT
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Post by Blizz on Aug 24, 2005 12:53:32 GMT
It's not the first time in Doctor Who that suspicious events have happened in a school. Remember that episode, 'Remembrance of the Daleks'?
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Post by Dave on Aug 24, 2005 13:17:10 GMT
I thought that was confiirmed a couple of months back?
I'm sure I read it just before Dr Who finished.
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Lord only knows what goes through his mind when he see's a barrel and a form of killing the opposition.
