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Post by Turbocharge on Feb 23, 2004 21:47:52 GMT
Well, as we know, zach has unvieled the ancient echidna's unfinished project: shadow-the ultimate life form.
but what exactly does zach plan to acheive with this? his revenge on the ancient echidnas, like he said in his debut issue? he's have to find them first.
revenge on knuckles? knuckles isn't in this story yet.
world domination? perhaps. ;D
but what I really want to know if why he included rougue, robotnik and that other echidna in his plan.
if he has grudges agaist the acient echidnas, why has he enlisted the help of one?
why has he called in rouge the treasue hunter? does he plan on aqquiring the chaos emeralds again? to what end?
but why, oh why, did he free robotnik? robotnik is now completely insane. he doesn't even speak now. what help could he possibly be to zachary? personally I think zach's got some double-crossing tricks up his sleave and wants to test them on robotnik.
it would be interesting to see everyone elses' opinions before the story is finally brought to a conclusion.
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Post by Sin on Feb 23, 2004 22:39:31 GMT
You forgot one of the most important reasons that Zach might have freed Robotnik:
Robotnik saved Zachs life.
When Zach fell from the floating island he was saved and turned into a cyborg by Robotnik. I personally think that Zach saved Robotnik as a kind of pay back for saving his life. Weather Zach now hopes that Robotnik turns sane again is something I don't know. As sane, Robotnik would be a better allie but he wouldn't like taking comands and would want to be in comand. Personally I think that Robotnik should regain his marble and he and Zach should battle for command of the group.
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Post by Turbocharge on Feb 23, 2004 23:00:39 GMT
hmm.. I duno about that. I thik they're square already. remember, zach showed robotnik where the emerald hill folk were hiding out.
but a power struggle betwee those two would be pretty cool.
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Post by MikeCnotloggedin on Feb 24, 2004 12:36:26 GMT
I think Robotnik may well be more lethal now that he's insane that he was before! Mike
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Post by DarkR on Feb 24, 2004 16:18:40 GMT
Zachary has got to be one of the best badguys going at the moment. I reckon, firstly, that he should get rid of that rubbish badnik exteria he’s wearing and upgrade it with the Metallix based on Knuckles, but maybe with black armour. That would look great. Zack has got to be on the manipulating flex, especially wiv the new Echidna. Lets hope that Vichima doesn’t turn good later on down the line and die. I’d complain. ;D As for Zack and Robotnik. I see it that Zack owed Robotnik for saving his life. If anything, he’s keeping old Egg-Breath around simply because of what it means. Example 1: >:(Zack: I’m Dr Zachary. ???Mobian: Who? Example 2: >:(Zack: (with Robotnik standing behind him) I’m Dr Zachary. :oMobian: Oh God! Look. Its Robotnik! Besides, if he did truly intend to restore Robotnik’s marbles, then Robotnik would try and take everything from Zack. That’s what Robotnik does. He’s like that. Ahhh well, have to wait and find out, eh? Dark R.
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Post by Knuckles on Feb 24, 2004 16:23:43 GMT
I don't think Vichima should become a regular
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Post by DarkR on Feb 24, 2004 16:39:26 GMT
DAMN STRAIGHT.
Vichima should die.
Bye Bye Vichima. BANG!!! ;D ;D ;D
Dark R.
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Post by Knuckles on Feb 24, 2004 16:50:10 GMT
Knuckles should kill him
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Post by Samface on Feb 24, 2004 17:52:18 GMT
Too right. I mean, he's had, what, five panels to prove himself? That's more than enough. EDIT: Yes, I am being sarcastic. So there.
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Post by Turbocharge on Feb 24, 2004 19:51:48 GMT
you're missing something, tho. he's an ancient echidna. he could be knuckles' answers to what happened to his race. especially since tikal can't remember squat. (what is it about echidnas and amesia?)
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Post by Knuckles on Feb 24, 2004 22:30:57 GMT
Cos that worked with zachary so well did it not
I am also being sarcastic
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Post by Turbocharge on Feb 24, 2004 22:44:39 GMT
and would you want rid of zachary? blesphamy!
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Post by Knuckles on Feb 24, 2004 22:48:04 GMT
NO! NO! I THINK ZACH'S COOL HOWEVER I DON'T THINK VICH'S TOO GREAT
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Post by HyperKnux99 on Feb 24, 2004 23:00:43 GMT
what is the point of having vic he comes out of no where and don't really say anything, I say we kill him off. he's useless
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Post by Knuckles on Feb 24, 2004 23:03:37 GMT
Kill vic
*gets shotgun
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Post by Turbocharge on Feb 24, 2004 23:34:27 GMT
i'll admit he hasn't had much limelight, but I for one am interested to see what his story is.
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Post by Admin Droid on Feb 25, 2004 0:55:30 GMT
Wow, not many Vichama fans eh? I think it was probably a mistake to put him alongside such major villains. I felt the team needed filling out and so I recycled an old idea of Nigel Kitching's for Zachary to have reawakened some echidna criminals from the past. It means he ends up getting the short end of the stick sometimes. Then again, he's only featured in two brief issues.
Incidentally, part of the aim of freeing Robotnik was to actually alert Sonic and get the piece of DNA he needed to complete the Shadow project. Whether that's the only reason is another matter. I think some of the ideas here are pretty interesting though.
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Post by supersonicjim on Feb 25, 2004 1:09:11 GMT
Wow, not many Vichama fans eh? I think it was probably a mistake to put him alongside such major villains. I felt the team needed filling out and so I recycled an old idea of Nigel Kitching's for Zachary to have reawakened some echidna criminals from the past. It means he ends up getting the short end of the stick sometimes. Then again, he's only featured in two brief issues. Incidentally, part of the aim of freeing Robotnik was to actually alert Sonic and get the piece of DNA he needed to complete the Shadow project. Whether that's the only reason is another matter. I think some of the ideas here are pretty interesting though. how do you know about one of his old ideas?
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Post by Admin Droid on Feb 25, 2004 1:10:35 GMT
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Post by supersonicjim on Feb 25, 2004 1:11:25 GMT
ah that explains it, I thought you were some stalker person
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Post by Spydaman on Feb 25, 2004 2:18:16 GMT
Don't some of you think you're being just a weeee bit closed minded about Vichama? Considering he's only been in 2 issues so far, the first of which he was only in one frame. Give the guy a chance to develop eh? I kinda wonder if everyone would be so harsh on the character if this was an official comic
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Post by DarkR on Feb 25, 2004 11:17:10 GMT
Bah Humbug! Vic should prove his worth, and reveal something of the past, I agree on that. But keep him around permentally.... its been done before with Zack (and now Tikal) so lets not do it again.
If it means him dying then bye bye Vic. Bit not before he's revealed something of the past. Or made more questions. Also, Tikal begun to remember something in the latest issue, proving that her memories aren't as gone as was thought.
She may be of some use to Knuckles yet.
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Post by Spydaman on Feb 25, 2004 13:18:30 GMT
Who said even Tikal was gonna be around permanently?
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Post by Dimension on Feb 25, 2004 14:26:33 GMT
yeah, I mean besides, she's only been dragged from the past with no memory or way of going back, there are just so many places she could go to never end up turning up in one story or another
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Post by Knuckles on Feb 25, 2004 21:07:10 GMT
Tikal is quite cool but that may be because she has more of a connection to knuckles
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