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Post by Turbocharge on Feb 25, 2004 21:47:23 GMT
that's true. tikal and knuckles did know each other in the distant past.
but let's not get distracted. this is about zach. not tikal or vichama
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Post by Knuckles on Feb 26, 2004 20:46:16 GMT
Okay Zach knows about ancient Echidna times and therefor it is logical to assume he knows about the Drakon (and that too was around in ancient times)
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Post by Samface on Feb 26, 2004 20:54:37 GMT
Well, it certainly looks like he too is from ancient times because when he appeared in #226 he knew Tikal instantly.
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Post by Turbocharge on Feb 26, 2004 21:31:26 GMT
true. I find that rather confusing, as it has been said on numerous occasions, that Nigel Kitching created Zach as a modern day echidna. I'm fairly sure ed knows this, which is why i'm particularly interested to see where he takes this.
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Post by JJ on Feb 26, 2004 21:41:52 GMT
Wow, not many Vichama fans eh? Anybody who hates Vichama based on two strips is a foolhardy jackfanny (I'm actually saying that - it's not the censorship system kicking in  ). I'm more than willing to give the character a chance and I'm definitely not going to prejudge him based on two strips. From the backstory you have divulged to us, it's definitely an interesting idea, and I'm eager to see what you do with him. I'd like to see something which really cements him as a villian - a vile deed which etches him into our memory, just like the fantastic way that Kitching and Dobbyn presented Zachary. |
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Post by Sonic on Feb 26, 2004 21:53:05 GMT
lets give vic a chance for all we know vic could be Knuckles dad or son * gasp*  |
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Post by HyperKnux99 on Feb 26, 2004 23:50:55 GMT
thats would be weird but it is a possiblity... PLOT TWIST!
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Post by Samface on Feb 26, 2004 23:52:06 GMT
I think I prefer the theory that I just made up. That being that Vichama is actually Knuckles'.............
..............greengrocer. ;D
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Post by Sonic on Feb 26, 2004 23:53:29 GMT
how would that work???
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Post by Samface on Feb 26, 2004 23:56:11 GMT
EVERYONE PLEASE NOTE: at least 50% of everything I ever say ever is silly nonsense and to be ignored. This applies both to stuff I write on here and should you ever happen to meet me in real life. The above instance is just one example of this behaviour.
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Post by Tom on Feb 27, 2004 0:45:59 GMT
true. I find that rather confusing, as it has been said on numerous occasions, that Nigel Kitching created Zach as a modern day echidna. I'm fairly sure ed knows this, which is why i'm particularly interested to see where he takes this. Did he? I was under the impression that Nigel said he thought Zachary was from the past as well. Although to be honest I prefer the idea that Zachary is a modern echidna - it gives him a crucial distinction from Knuckles. Doctor Zachary is a complete enigma, though, and who knows whether the upcoming stories will go any way towards unravelling his mysterious nature. I know that for me the mystery is one of the most engaging aspects of his character - which is what made him the perfect nemesis for Knuckles. |
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Post by Tom on Feb 27, 2004 0:51:54 GMT
I think I prefer the theory that I just made up. That being that Vichama is actually Knuckles'............. ..............greengrocer. ;D Does he do deliveries to the Floating Island?  |
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Post by Turbocharge on Feb 27, 2004 1:02:02 GMT
i doubt Nigel said he "thought" anything about zach. he created him ;D
i'm pretty sure that was the information I heard over at the MoFo. i'll probably check it later.
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Post by Admin Droid on Feb 27, 2004 1:02:57 GMT
Actually, Richard Elson created Dr Zachary.
(And yes, I'm sure Nigel had said that Zachary was a modern echidna. Apparently, he's also said he was an ancient one. I haven't seen that. I guess Nigel would have done whatever suited the story he was working on at the time.)
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Post by Tom on Feb 27, 2004 22:07:51 GMT
i doubt Nigel said he "thought" anything about zach. he created him ;D i'm pretty sure that was the information I heard over at the Sonic HQ Forum. i'll probably check it later. I very much doubt he created Zachary with a clear vision of his backstory in mind (in fact, as Ed rightly points out, the character was created by Richard Elson). Nigel often would start a storyline with no idea how it was going to end (which on some occasions led to him getting completely stuck - Ghost Ship is a good example of this; he had to get Nigel Dobbyn to bail him out in the end). |
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Post by Ellie on Feb 28, 2004 18:11:39 GMT
i like the fact that we don't know what Zachary knows, it adds to the mystery. I don't think everything has to be explained, leave things to your imagination, its more interesting.
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Post by tucker on Feb 29, 2004 20:37:39 GMT
i like the fact that we don't know what Zachary knows, it adds to the mystery. I don't think everything has to be explained, leave things to your imagination, its more interesting. But I don;t have an imagination I need to be told. |
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Post by AngryDoc on Apr 9, 2004 23:00:23 GMT
As far as Vichama goes, I agree with those who realise it is not wise to judge the guy after not even recieveing a sample of his abilities as a character. Let him, as someone suggested, commit an act that sticks with us. Though I must admit Zachary is still my #1 evil echidna. As for mysteries of the echidna past, off course it would be interesting to see what, if anything, Zachary, Vichama, or indeed Tikal, reveal. Still, whether we're told or not, here's what my imagination has been pondering: Zach said the echidnas started on project Shadow. Tikal saw Sonic as a potential saviour, whereas Pochacamac may have seen him as a weapon and wished to harness his capabilities in the form of Shadow. And guess who Pochey's chief scientist for the project would be. None other than ol' Dr Z. And now the cydborg grandpappy is back to finish the job! Just a thought! |
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Post by Zerolus on Apr 11, 2004 10:47:24 GMT
But Zarchary said Shadow was made by the ENIMIES of the echidna race. And the only enimies I can think of are the Drakons. So the Drakons (in the achinet past) saw Sonic and thought if he was on thier side, they could wipe out the echidna's withen a matter of hours rather than years. And thats how Shadow came into existance. And if Shadow's going to use Chaos Control (and I don't see why not) they fuse Chaos energy into him. However the project had to be stopped for some reason. Then in the presant Zak found Shadow and thought he could be used for his own evil purposes.
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Post by Samface on Apr 30, 2004 13:33:19 GMT
So the Drakons (in the achinet past) saw Sonic and thought if he was on thier side, they could wipe out the echidna's withen a matter of hours rather than years. And thats how Shadow came into existance. With apologies for digging up another old topic...that's a really cool idea! ;D |
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Post by Zerolus on Apr 30, 2004 23:27:07 GMT
Really? Thanks. I guess. Most of my ideas are hardly as great as what was going in Nigel K's head.
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). I'm more than willing to give the character a chance and I'm definitely not going to prejudge him based on two strips.
