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Post by Aria on Mar 30, 2010 0:03:07 GMT
That would be a good SA2 adaptation I guess, or was it Sonic Battle that had Emeral... There was one game where at the end Tails repairs a robot for Cream that lived with her and her mother or something like that. I would still love to see the chao though, but they were sort-of included weren't they? There was an issue of STC-O where an omochao helped Sonic. It would probably be a two-part adaptation covering both Battle and Advance 3. Also, I maintain Chao should be wildlife that lives on the Drakon Zone. A couple maybe escaped from a Warp Ring? In fact, I'm having a good load of ideas for introducing Cream into this. Imagine Dark Chao, with their teeth and all, being used as a basic Drakon weapon- just to chew on the echidnas at first so the Drakons can have some fun and make their job easier. Maybe Cream finds a Chao Garden, a long-forgotten Mobius Ring that grew into a garden of Chao. Maybe once the Guardian Gizoid senses the threat of Chao he activates and attacks Cream, hence Knuckles or Sonic protecting her. EDIT: Sketched Drakon Gizoid, will do tomorrow. That sounds like a perfectly logical idea to me. But them being separate from the Drakens would be nice... And what would you do about hero chao and different types of chao if they were related to Drakens? Don't Drakens live underwater anyway? Chao can't 'live' underwater since babies can't even swim, but they need to live around clean water I think.
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Post by Emilybee on Mar 30, 2010 1:22:42 GMT
After the Chronicles game, I'll be disappointed if the Gizoids now change ownership...
Edit: Especially since their design is way different to anything the Drakon produce and more closer to the Echidna's guardians and so forth.
They have a "cute" creepy aspect that none of the Draken things have.
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Post by The KKM on Mar 30, 2010 14:26:03 GMT
It would probably be a two-part adaptation covering both Battle and Advance 3. Also, I maintain Chao should be wildlife that lives on the Drakon Zone. A couple maybe escaped from a Warp Ring? In fact, I'm having a good load of ideas for introducing Cream into this. Imagine Dark Chao, with their teeth and all, being used as a basic Drakon weapon- just to chew on the echidnas at first so the Drakons can have some fun and make their job easier. Maybe Cream finds a Chao Garden, a long-forgotten Mobius Ring that grew into a garden of Chao. Maybe once the Guardian Gizoid senses the threat of Chao he activates and attacks Cream, hence Knuckles or Sonic protecting her. EDIT: Sketched Drakon Gizoid, will do tomorrow. That sounds like a perfectly logical idea to me. But them being separate from the Drakens would be nice... And what would you do about hero chao and different types of chao if they were related to Drakens? Don't Drakens live underwater anyway? Chao can't 'live' underwater since babies can't even swim, but they need to live around clean water I think. The Drakons don't completely live underwater, they use those suits to walk on earth; and obviously there's earth on Drak, otherwise where would the flickies come from? I have been juggling various ideas. Chao can be wildlife, they can be hybrids created by the "chaos energy waste" from producing the emeralds, I don't know. This is all barebone.
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Post by Aria on Mar 30, 2010 15:58:05 GMT
That sounds like a perfectly logical idea to me. But them being separate from the Drakens would be nice... And what would you do about hero chao and different types of chao if they were related to Drakens? Don't Drakens live underwater anyway? Chao can't 'live' underwater since babies can't even swim, but they need to live around clean water I think. The Drakons don't completely live underwater, they use those suits to walk on earth; and obviously there's earth on Drak, otherwise where would the flickies come from? I have been juggling various ideas. Chao can be wildlife, they can be hybrids created by the "chaos energy waste" from producing the emeralds, I don't know. This is all barebone. Just personally, I like the wildlife idea, but for them to have their own planet since there are supposedly many types of chao gardens, or to be scattered throughout another planet such as Mobious or Drak in hidden areas. Maybe Sonic discovers them on one planet while explorring Mobious or looking for something on the Drakan world.
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Post by The KKM on Mar 30, 2010 23:23:12 GMT
I'll leave this here. I'll try to get soemone to help and speak to Charles about actually making a script out of this. Once I finish the Chu Chu Rocket one.
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Post by Emilybee on Mar 31, 2010 1:34:52 GMT
I don't even reconnigse those as Gizoids... sonic.wikia.com/wiki/GizoidI mean had you not told me what they were I'd not known what they were. The one on the right to be honest is a design of its own and would stand alone without being called a Gizoid. On that note, I think I want to see it in a stripe without the Gizoid name attached to it.
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Post by The KKM on Mar 31, 2010 8:49:30 GMT
Game designs don't always translate equally from the games. I mean, would you look at a gizoid from Chronicles and said an Echidna (from StC) had done it? Or a Drakon? Hence the middle model- that one yes is a throwback at G-Mel.
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Post by Emilybee on Mar 31, 2010 11:22:02 GMT
To be honest in my defence on G-Mel... It was 2:30 am or something when I posted that. All I saw was; "Black and orange", "Black and orange" "Oh look that one isn't black and orange".
I just didn't see G-mel in the middle one. Lol. X-D :-P
Considering this though, we have Guardians for Echidnas and the otherrobots for the Draken and even if you didn't know one was made by Echidnas according to Chronicles, the Gizoids look more like the guardian robots then they do the other side bots.
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Post by The KKM on Mar 31, 2010 12:29:04 GMT
To be honest in my defence on G-Mel... It was 2:30 am or something when I posted that. All I saw was; "Black and orange", "Black and orange" "Oh look that one isn't black and orange". I just didn't see G-mel in the middle one. Lol. X-D :-P Considering this though, we have Guardians for Echidnas and the otherrobots for the Draken and even if you didn't know one was made by Echidnas according to Chronicles, the Gizoids look more like the guardian robots then they do the other side bots. Those two designs are just sketches of ideas thrown around anywyas- people were discussing "gizoids looking like the guardian bots! gizoids looking like drakons!" so I tried to show both.
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Post by Emilybee on Mar 31, 2010 14:44:26 GMT
Next question; is there a middle ground? One that resembles both and sort of be used as a Go between. One idea I could think of myself is showing progression from one design to another as a solution from orginal to what we see in the games.
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Post by The KKM on Mar 31, 2010 15:57:43 GMT
Next question; is there a middle ground? One that resembles both and sort of be used as a Go between. One idea I could think of myself is showing progression from one design to another as a solution from orginal to what we see in the games. The middle one. Idea I had was, they fight 'till "death", then porker lewis builds a new one from pieces of both, that new one being the middle one- G-Mel.
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Post by Aria on Apr 1, 2010 22:04:40 GMT
Technically the colors are 'black and yellow', not 'black and orange', that's what I get out of the echidna robots.
Maybe if you took the far left one's legs away from it and made the right one's legs more like it?
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Post by Fools in Miru on Jan 11, 2013 3:45:22 GMT
Rouge turning out to be working for the humans. Shadow's tragic past.
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Post by Adamis on Jan 11, 2013 15:11:20 GMT
You're obsessed with Rouge or is it me ? And what "Shadow's tragic past" ?
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Post by modochi on Jan 11, 2013 19:18:44 GMT
Just personally, I like the wildlife idea, but for them to have their own planet since there are supposedly many types of chao gardens, or to be scattered throughout another planet such as Mobious or Drak in hidden areas. Maybe Sonic discovers them on one planet while explorring Mobious or looking for something on the Drakan world. Why not just have them come from the Special Zone, that place is crazy enough to have procuded a species like the chao. Or going by alien race, they could be from the Miracle Planet, game wise the place was clearly inhabitated by someone, but the game never showed who or what lived there.
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Post by Fools in Miru on Jan 12, 2013 17:40:01 GMT
You're obsessed with Rouge or is it me ? And what "Shadow's tragic past" ? Shadow losing Maria. I think there should be an arc where Robotnik recreates a physical Shadow and rebuilds the Syndicate with 13 members, to find his grandfather's Biolizard. Rouge will end up being saved by Knuckles and turning good. Porker will sacrifice himself and turn Super Sonic permanently benevolent.
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Post by Adamis on Jan 12, 2013 17:46:47 GMT
There is no Maria in STCO, and we are not going to add a grandfather to Robotnik out of nowhere. 13 members in the Syndicate ? Are you crazy ? This is not Kingdom Hearts And Porker and Rouge will marry next issue
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Post by ShayMay on Jan 12, 2013 18:00:02 GMT
Shadow losing Maria. I think there should be an arc where Robotnik recreates a physical Shadow and rebuilds the Syndicate with 13 members, to find his grandfather's Biolizard. Rouge will end up being saved by Knuckles and turning good. Porker will sacrifice himself and turn Super Sonic permanently benevolent. I can't tell whether you're trolling or not. :L In the event that you're not, look, we get that you like the games and Archie Sonic. And that's great! Glad you enjoy them. But STC is really a different universe. Porker is a much older character than Rouge in our universe, we're not going to get rid of him. And we're yet to see how Rouge falls into place. We're not going to make any of these changes. You can try the comic as it is, and see if you like it, separate from the other Sonic comics. If you do, brilliant! Welcome aboard! If not, that's cool too! You still have Archie and the games to enjoy. But please don't come in here asking us to basically become Archie, that's a bit disheartening.
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Post by Charles on Jan 12, 2013 20:44:08 GMT
There is no Maria in STCO, and we are not going to add a grandfather to Robotnik out of nowhere. Well, logically Kintobor would have a granddad. He probably wouldn't be making lizard monsters though, unless his granddad is Frank N. Stein. ...hmmm....
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Post by cellsai on Jan 13, 2013 4:35:18 GMT
He probably wouldn't be making lizard monsters though, unless his granddad is Frank N. Stein. ...hmmm.... The greatest comic ever written right there. Igor is Grimer's granddad. It all makes sense.[various Rouge posts all over StCO] From what I recall, you wrote a fanfiction about Rouge getting beaten so bad she gets hospitalized and dies. I don't get how you're so worried about StC's portrayal of her considering your past uses of the character :/
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Post by Fools in Miru on Jan 13, 2013 5:47:59 GMT
The greatest comic ever written right there. Igor is Grimer's granddad. It all makes sense.[various Rouge posts all over StCO] From what I recall, you wrote a fanfiction about Rouge getting beaten so bad she gets hospitalized and dies. I don't get how you're so worried about StC's portrayal of her considering your past uses of the character :/ But she comes back to life after that.
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Post by ligero on Jan 13, 2013 19:45:43 GMT
Stuff that should be introduced in the comics. This isn't exactly being introduced, but something that can be clarified since it's already there.
The Enchanter Kings of the Nameless Zone bought Tails, their champion, to the zone because of the letters to his family they found. As stated way back in issue #16.
Here's something that should be introduced: Members OF said family.
Oh yeah. Jumping in the WAY BACK machine on this one. >
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Post by Matt on Jan 13, 2013 20:11:23 GMT
I think you make an excellent point, that said, like SEGA we tend to avoid showing parents and family members of the main cast, the casual mention of Tails family is ok, but I don't think we'd ever show his mum and dad....
so unfortunately where they are and why Tails never checks in with them when he goes back to the nameless zone, remains untouched
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Post by ligero on Jan 13, 2013 20:23:34 GMT
I think you make an excellent point, that said, like SEGA we tend to avoid showing parents and family members of the main cast, the casual mention of Tails family is ok, but I don't think we'd ever show his mum and dad.... so unfortunately where they are and why Tails never checks in with them when he goes back to the nameless zone, remains untouched Fair enough. Fair enough. It was just one of those plot points that was there and, since I went waaaaaaaay too far back, tripped over it. One of those "did anyone else notice this but me?" moments.
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Post by ligero on Jan 13, 2013 21:19:25 GMT
I like this topic personally. So I'll decide to delve a little deeper into it. As I've picked up the old issues again and throw a feel things that _I_ feel (Note: this is a major disclaimer in itself) should be introduced and reintroduced in the series.
My title change of my portion of this thread explains it.
Backtrack Exploring Good old fashioned back track exploration. I'm suggesting this as it gives the option of re-exploring and if you'd like, re-inventing old locations and going from there. Even answering a few questions while doing so. Here's some examples:
- The Aquatic Ruin Zone It's a set of ruins underwater. Once guarded by a massive stone Darkon Sentinel, it saved Sonic while he was underwater and crumbled away. Exactly what else is in those ruins?
- The Marble Zone Long long ago in the absolutely ancient Sonic issue #3 they introduced the Marble Zone. (Again. Going WAY BACK.) Which are even more ruins of an unknown nature. Going into the very first Sonic game, why not explain ruins of what or whom?
Another thing that could be bought on back or bought back up?
--What's Going On With and Where Is... Case in point. why not bring up what long missing characters are doing, or even what see how to toss in small interactions with characters that could tie up very old long forgotten little loopholes and events.
-- Extra Life Anyone remember that Sonic clone from issue #13 that Sonic put back in a monitor and kicked into space? (Which I thought was... pretty damn funny.) ...shouldn't he be approaching low orbit sooner or later?
--Unbeatable Foes[/u] So. Sonic #32. (This thread will be dedicated to making people check those back issues) The Mysterious Traveler Introduced 'The Unbeatable Creature' from the Misery Zone that got put back in his zone and killed everything with it's Apocalypse Blast. Since the zone survived as Brutus took it over, wouldn't that mean other 'Unbeatable Monsters' survived too? Also, what about the original monster, as would the attack it used work on itself...? So I dug a little. [/color]
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