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Post by Arch on Jan 14, 2013 0:23:34 GMT
Since the zone survived as Brutus took it over, wouldn't that mean other 'Unbeatable Monsters' survived too? Also, what about the original monster, as would the attack it used work on itself...? I think that's just a lapse in memory for Lew there. Considering the Misery Zone was supposedly reduced to a void one minute, then actually just devoid of life a year later, I think it's just a mistake. Even so, nobody was said to live there in its last appearance.
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Post by modochi on Jan 14, 2013 20:05:27 GMT
I think you make an excellent point, that said, like SEGA we tend to avoid showing parents and family members of the main cast, the casual mention of Tails family is ok, but I don't think we'd ever show his mum and dad.... That makes sense, making parents for any kind of character is always tricky business, especially since everyone has a different opinion on how said parents should be like. Me, I just pretend they all are orphans and have no idea who their parents even are.
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Post by Charles on Jan 14, 2013 23:00:28 GMT
Even so, nobody was said to live there in its last appearance. I like to think that people have moved in and it's now become gentrified.
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Post by ligero on Jan 15, 2013 17:30:45 GMT
That makes sense, making parents for any kind of character is always tricky business, especially since everyone has a different opinion on how said parents should be like. Me, I just pretend they all are orphans and have no idea who their parents even are. I tried. However, since the notes to Tails' parents happened to be the reason for the entire Nameless Zone storylines... you kind of have to wonder what they're doing. I mean for story sake, he might have a whole family outside mom and pop in there that extends to uncles, cousins and such. Just a thought. But.. SEGA. So, I guess I'll clip it there.
Now the Misery Zone...........
.....I looked it over, and Brutus took up command there, so it's inhabitable. After they beat Brutus though, it's just been abandoned and sitting in limbo plot wise.
If anyone wants to start speculation as to any monsters or whatever is still possibly living there, that's a story in itself.
Actually, that's an RPG in and of itself.
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Post by modochi on Jan 15, 2013 18:24:38 GMT
That makes sense, making parents for any kind of character is always tricky business, especially since everyone has a different opinion on how said parents should be like. Me, I just pretend they all are orphans and have no idea who their parents even are. I tried. However, since the notes to Tails' parents happened to be the reason for the entire Nameless Zone storylines... you kind of have to wonder what they're doing. I mean for story sake, he might have a whole family outside mom and pop in there that extends to uncles, cousins and such. Just a thought. But.. SEGA. So, I guess I'll clip it there.
Please use a different text color, I can barely read any of it.Second, from SEGA's point of view it most likely makes sense to put down a veto on any siblings or parental units getting made in the various spin off media these days. Fleetway and Archie most likely got away with it back then because SEGA didn't really care about lawsuits or problems with licenses, but these days, oh boy, they're making sure their view of the characters and family connections are the only ones around to prevent someone from suing them over a family member due to the likeness or similarity to a spin off character from a comic or cartoon.
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Post by Matt on Jan 15, 2013 18:30:39 GMT
I tried. However, since the notes to Tails' parents happened to be the reason for the entire Nameless Zone storylines... you kind of have to wonder what they're doing. I mean for story sake, he might have a whole family outside mom and pop in there that extends to uncles, cousins and such. Just a thought. But.. SEGA. So, I guess I'll clip it there.
Please use a different text color, I can barely read any of it.Second, from SEGA's point of view it most likely makes sense to put down a veto on any siblings or parental units getting made in the various spin off media these days. Fleetway and Archie most likely got away with it back then because SEGA didn't really care about lawsuits or problems with licenses, but these days, oh boy, they're making sure their view of the characters and family connections are the only ones around to prevent someone from suing them over a family member due to the likeness or similarity to a spin off character from a comic or cartoon. To be fair Fleetway never had any family for any member of the main cast shown. Even with Tails it was a vague reference that he sent letters to his family. We never see that family and Nigel never showed any interest for showing that family, he was just setting a narrative frame up for how the foxes knew of Tails. His family could be any one, they don't even have to be related to him at all.
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Post by modochi on Jan 15, 2013 18:42:13 GMT
Please use a different text color, I can barely read any of it.Second, from SEGA's point of view it most likely makes sense to put down a veto on any siblings or parental units getting made in the various spin off media these days. Fleetway and Archie most likely got away with it back then because SEGA didn't really care about lawsuits or problems with licenses, but these days, oh boy, they're making sure their view of the characters and family connections are the only ones around to prevent someone from suing them over a family member due to the likeness or similarity to a spin off character from a comic or cartoon. To be fair Fleetway never had any family for any member of the main cast shown. Even with Tails it was a vague reference that he sent letters to his family. We never see that family and Nigel never showed any interest for showing that family, he was just setting a narrative frame up for how the foxes knew of Tails. His family could be any one, they don't even have to be related to him at all. To be even more fair, I've never read Fleetway's comic, by the tiime I gained themeans for buying the issues, Fleetway had stopped printing them. So I'm in the dark about anything relating to family members in fleetway.
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Post by Matt on Jan 15, 2013 18:48:26 GMT
To be fair Fleetway never had any family for any member of the main cast shown. Even with Tails it was a vague reference that he sent letters to his family. We never see that family and Nigel never showed any interest for showing that family, he was just setting a narrative frame up for how the foxes knew of Tails. His family could be any one, they don't even have to be related to him at all. To be even more fair, I've never read Fleetway's comic, by the tiime I gained themeans for buying the issues, Fleetway had stopped printing them. So I'm in the dark about anything relating to family members in fleetway. Then to be finally fair... thats fairly understandable *ahem sorry* in fact we're looking at way to catch up people who sadly have missed out on all the classic print stories
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Post by ligero on Jan 15, 2013 18:50:10 GMT
Please use a different text color, I can barely read any of it. Gotcha. Gotcha. I happen to use brown as it shows up better in my screen. Second, from SEGA's point of view it most likely makes sense to put down a veto on any siblings or parental units getting made in the various spin off media these days. Fleetway and Archie most likely got away with it back then because SEGA didn't really care about lawsuits or problems with licenses, but these days, oh boy, they're making sure their view of the characters and family connections are the only ones around to prevent someone from suing them over a family member due to the likeness or similarity to a spin off character from a comic or cartoon. ....Sir (Or Madam) I wholeheartedly agree with you on this one and retract all statement about introduction of parental units here outside of mentioning they're just alive. Recalling a certain other writer who screwed it up for everyone, putting it in THAT context drove it home. I understand and respect your point. I just regret having no more internets to give out.
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Post by Charles on Jan 15, 2013 19:45:53 GMT
So I'm in the dark about anything relating to family members in fleetway. Johnny Lightfoot had a large family cos he was a rabbit. Yeah, Lew Stringer WENT THERE.
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Post by Matt on Jan 15, 2013 21:20:37 GMT
So I'm in the dark about anything relating to family members in fleetway. Johnny Lightfoot had a large family cos he was a rabbit. Yeah, Lew Stringer WENT THERE. that said he didn't do what writters for other comic would do and made us meet them, he made his rabbit joke and left the rest (thankfully unseen) isn't that right Mari-su
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Post by Mambo's Here! Look Busy! on Jan 15, 2013 21:24:37 GMT
We're all made of stardust anyway... hyuk hyuk hyuk. Nah, I liked that "family" were kept out of STCO as far as we the readers saw. I mean, obviously everyone had parents and possibly siblings but it wasn't necessary to show them. (Tonic, anybody - and that weird line he used to describe his childhood?!) I did wonder at the time of reading about Tails' letters back home whether it meant he wasn't really a Mobian at all, and whether that all foxes were from this weird, alternative dimension. It sent my 9 year old mind reeling because back then, I was used to Tails from AoSTH - SANIC'S LIL BRO!
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Post by Supermorff on Jan 15, 2013 21:37:16 GMT
Two Chaotix members had parents introduced, though.
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Post by Mambo's Here! Look Busy! on Jan 15, 2013 21:38:01 GMT
Baaaaaaaaaaaaah....
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touche. :B
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Post by Chigs! on Jan 15, 2013 21:46:32 GMT
I wonder if Holly is related to the Lightfoots...?
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Post by ligero on Jan 15, 2013 22:15:36 GMT
I play the Parental Unit card. This thread takes ALL of the damage. =)
I didn't think my bringing up a small topic from the classic comics before they even got into double digit issues would roll out into some good discussion.
Oh I got me some more digging to do. =0
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Post by Matt on Jan 15, 2013 22:32:58 GMT
Two Chaotix members had parents introduced, though. Charmy doesn't count but no good point, on a related point, how was Mighty born seeing as his dad's gay. was he someones beard, was he living a lie for year and him and society max had a brokeback mountain style romance, is Mighty the result of a sperm donor program. I'm not expecting a cannon answer and I know there are Gay parents in the world, but it never occurred to me until now, to even think about blockheads back ground. and now I realise why official family should be avoided cause I know that stories never being explored, it's a bit boring and domestic for Sonic, but the question is out there now
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Post by Charles on Jan 15, 2013 23:23:17 GMT
on a related point, how was Mighty born seeing as his dad's gay. was he someones beard, was he living a lie for year and him and society max had a brokeback mountain style romance, is Mighty the result of a sperm donor program. Blockhead Bill always knew he was gay, but until babby Mighty said "mama" he didn't realise his shapely, hugely-bosomed wife wasn't a man. He still hasn't twigged that Society Max isn't another armadillo.
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Post by Beeth on Jan 15, 2013 23:38:43 GMT
Have I missed something?
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Post by Matt on Jan 15, 2013 23:58:05 GMT
on a related point, how was Mighty born seeing as his dad's gay. was he someones beard, was he living a lie for year and him and society max had a brokeback mountain style romance, is Mighty the result of a sperm donor program. Blockhead Bill always knew he was gay, but until babby Mighty said "mama" he didn't realise his shapely, hugely-bosomed wife wasn't a man. He still hasn't twigged that Society Max isn't another armadillo. This is now Cannon, someone upload this to the wiki ;D
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Post by Pinchetel on Jan 16, 2013 12:05:56 GMT
Assuming that Blockhead Bill is gay (I know Nigel saw him as such, but whether others also viewed it that way is an unknown), he likely did it the same way that most people in the real world do it when not through adoption. I'd say that he wasn't such a scatterbrained idiot that he couldn't work out such means all his life.
Oh, hey Modochi.
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Post by modochi on Jan 16, 2013 15:28:55 GMT
Assuming that Blockhead Bill is gay (I know Nigel saw him as such, but whether others also viewed it that way is an unknown), he likely did it the same way that most people in the real world do it when not through adoption. I'd say that he wasn't such a scatterbrained idiot that he couldn't work out such means all his life. Or he just found out he was gay after fathering Mighty which seems to be the standard way it happens in the real world. Hey there.
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Post by ShayMay on Jan 16, 2013 15:43:02 GMT
Cockhead Bill
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Post by Fools in Miru on Feb 5, 2013 2:19:27 GMT
Maybe Extra Life was mutated upon exposure to a radiation belt, and he became Silver? Maybe Silver has secret evil motovations?
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Post by Fools in Miru on Jun 21, 2013 22:19:15 GMT
The Deadly Six as members of a brutal drug cartel.
Bunnie Rabbot as Sally's vengeful former friend who want's to cause eternal night,
Gamma as a pure evil Eggman robot.
Omega as a mercenary robot built by the Drakons with stolen Robotnik technology.
Pickle as a former associate of Robotnik's envious at his glory.
Chip as a horrific Lovecraftian god of light who tries to destroy möbius,
Marine as an insane suicide bomber.
Shade as a powerful sorceress who was banished to another dimension for worshipping Chip.
Seriously, you have Rouge as a sinister character who is an agent for the evil Drakons empire and no redeeming features, so these aren't far off.
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