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Post by Knuckles on Feb 5, 2008 20:04:04 GMT
Anyone know how this was done other than him transforming into an egg and hatching himself. He says something about that body serving his purpose. Does this mean Robotnik canchange new bodies? Lex Luthor esque, with clones or Dr.Who-esque? Or was it just a giant plot device to give him a meaner less childish image as the comic evolved?
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Post by reddevildazzy on Feb 5, 2008 20:10:14 GMT
Well, the reason Doctor Robotnik changed his form was because he had a new look in the Sonic The Hedgehog Cartoon at that time, so Sonic The Comic decided to give him a new look. I liked the new Doctor Robotnik, and the way he transformed by turning in to an egg, was very distrubing though, scary too because you didn't know what he was going to turn in to regarding his new apperance. The part about him saying this body has served it's purpose, I guess he had enough of his apperance.
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Post by Balls on Feb 5, 2008 20:10:23 GMT
I belive it was to create some weak continuity between Adventures Of Sonic The Hedgehog and Sonic The Comic.
When AoStH hit the screens in the UK, it was confusing to the kiddies that Robotnik looked completely different in the cartoons from how he looked in the comic.
Apparently, there was no such confusion between the games and the cartoons...
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Post by Samface on Feb 5, 2008 20:12:31 GMT
Considering Kitching almost wrote in Snively, it could've got really confusing.
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Post by Balls on Feb 5, 2008 20:16:40 GMT
Glad he didn't. Snively's an alright character, but he'd be redundant thanks to Grimer.
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Post by Samface on Feb 5, 2008 20:19:50 GMT
If Snively had been in the comic, Grimer wouldn't've been. From what I gather Kitching thought he was under obligation to include Snively, wrote him in, then found out at the last moment no such obligation existed and quickly invented a new character and gave him all Snively's lines. Hence, Grimer.
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Post by Balls on Feb 5, 2008 20:21:35 GMT
Well, that's pretty awesome. Seems like he was just being a tad difficult for the sake of it, but I guess it paid off, becaus Grimer does totally pwn Snively.
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Post by Pombar on Feb 5, 2008 20:21:42 GMT
Grimer having a much cooler design and generally being much more flexible a tool for storytelling. It worked out well.
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Post by Moo on Feb 5, 2008 20:57:05 GMT
Piccies plz for those of us who know bugger all about STC.  |
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Post by Mambo's Here! Look Busy! on Feb 5, 2008 21:27:52 GMT
Errr... I have no piccies on my laptop but its #21/22. The same issues Amy first appeared in as well. Tbh I was very confused reading that issue, Robotnik had human assistants advising him on his public image, Grimer first appeared and I had never seen anything like him before (having not seen SatAm at the time...) and the egg transformation totally baffled me!  I assume it was some sort of machine that Robotnik made himself, as Grimer asked him if "that egg" was him. So, presumably he had no idea about it... whereas later on I was under the impression all the inventing was Grimers job and Robotnik did hardly any. |
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Post by Samface on Feb 5, 2008 21:40:33 GMT
I think the two human characters were some sort of parody of high-up STC staff. Richard Burton, possibly?
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Post by Tom on Feb 5, 2008 22:21:16 GMT
If Snively had been in the comic, Grimer wouldn't've been. From what I gather Kitching thought he was under obligation to include Snively, wrote him in, then found out at the last moment no such obligation existed and quickly invented a new character and gave him all Snively's lines. Hence, Grimer. That's my understanding of it - although I'm not so sure about the "quickly" part. Certainly the script I read for #21 had the exact same dialogue for Snively that Grimer eventually said, but I imagine considerable thought went into the design. Also, Robotnik's look wasn't changed for the sake of tying in with the cartoon. Robotnik's look was changed because, as I understand it, Kitching and Elson felt the original design looked too silly, too clownlike; they wanted readers to take the character seriously and leapt at the opportunity to change it. (Although personally I felt that Elson was pretty successful at rendering the design in a sinister way those scant few times he drew it.) |
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Post by Mambo's Here! Look Busy! on Feb 5, 2008 22:41:04 GMT
Whaaa? They changed his design because he looked too silly and wanted us to take him seriously.... so they changed him to the hilarious lard arse from AoSTH?!  That makes no sense!  In the cartoon, the guy was often drawn with massive buttcheeks fer cryin' out loud! But yeh, I always took Robotnik to be pretty evil, properly evil... in both forms. Although the later style is the one I identify with in the comic.  They kinda made him the comics own, seperate from the Robotnik/Eggman in the games. |
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Post by Balls on Feb 5, 2008 22:43:49 GMT
He looked pretty evil originally, the way Elson did it. The main trouble was his lack of pupils, though.
The rest of the artists continued making him look like a joke, though.
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Post by Beta on Feb 5, 2008 22:43:50 GMT
The only difference seen in the 2 must be that Grimer doesn't have an ambition to take over the moment Robotnik falters, I prefer this move |
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Post by Knuckles on Feb 5, 2008 23:17:54 GMT
He does look far more sinister in his newer form, I was just wondering the hows he did it. I think he changed to the SatAM version because it was a more sinister design without being so radically different that people went WTF!!!
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Post by Baron Canier on Feb 5, 2008 23:24:31 GMT
Robotnik's main appearance is much better, if you ask me. He can really look bloody terrifying when he wants to.
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Post by obsidian on Feb 5, 2008 23:40:21 GMT
In any of his forms it is possible to make him look totally and completely evil, utterly terrifying, or just plain hilarious.
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Post by Charles on Feb 5, 2008 23:58:37 GMT
In any of his forms it is possible to make him look totally and completely evil, utterly terrifying, or just plain hilarious. Case in point:  |
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Post by Knuckles on Feb 6, 2008 2:51:36 GMT
the cake is a lie!!!  |
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Post by Arch_one_zero_one on Feb 6, 2008 3:54:20 GMT
the cake is a lie!!! Indeed it is. |
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Post by Devo DrakeFox on Feb 6, 2008 9:13:54 GMT
That's something to wake up to. On the subject of Snively's intended role in STC, if that had actually happened then STC would've been too much like Archie. As Snively's character developed he came to resent Robotnik and has plotted and schemed against him many times, so we couldn't have that. Whereas Grimer idolizes Robotnik to a frightening degree. Honestly, I'm surprised he doesn't surgically remove his lips and attach them to Robotnik's ass. |
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Post by Balls on Feb 6, 2008 10:40:30 GMT
On the subject of Snively's intended role in STC, if that had actually happened then STC would've been too much like Archie. |
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Post by madhair60 on Feb 6, 2008 11:37:11 GMT
You could've made humorous jokes about his big conk though
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Post by obsidian on Feb 6, 2008 12:05:15 GMT
In any of his forms it is possible to make him look totally and completely evil, utterly terrifying, or just plain hilarious. Case in point: I honestly consider that picture good enough to put on my CV. |
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I assume it was some sort of machine that Robotnik made himself, as Grimer asked him if "that egg" was him. So, presumably he had no idea about it... whereas later on I was under the impression all the inventing was Grimers job and Robotnik did hardly any.
That makes no sense! 
In the cartoon, the guy was often drawn with massive buttcheeks fer cryin' out loud! 
