Doctor Who Thread

[Baron Canier]

My bets on six, but only after having all other seven options almost kill her.

[Kittie Rose]

I don't think she's going to die. She's probably going to be dropped off in the alternate universe. That would make the most sesne, anyway, especially if the Cybermen are involved. Rumours are both sets of Cybermen will be showing up.

[Blizz]

Does anyone else think the monster this week looks a bit like Sil from the classic series?

[Pitt]

Yes. They do look somewhat similar.

[The Tikal who had no Toes]

NOOOOOO!!!!! First Chris, now Billie! At least David Tennant's going to stick around for a bit, he's got two or so series left. I liked Rose, it's nice to see a Doctor's sidekick who does a bit more than screaming at Daleks. I really hope she ISN'T killed off. I just hope his next sidekick is as cool. And Billie is a fantastic actress. Thank G-d she gave up singing, eh?
I'm missing it again tonight. Bugger.

[Pitt]

I did not like some things in tonights episode. The general abscence of the Doctor for one.

Though there were some good bits. I especially enjoyed

"Really? What's the twin planet of Raxacoricofallapatorius?"
"Clumb."

and also,

"Elton! Get a spade!"

[member1000]

whats docter who

[Pitt]

Read this:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who

[dazzy05]

What a totally unsual episode of Doctor Who tonight! I really did enjoy it very much, because it was very different, there was not much of The Doctor or Rose at all, just Elton's Life. It was very good at the start, when Elton saw the Tardis and then heard voices, and then confronted the monster, and who wants a pork chop lol. Funny part was when the chasing scene was going on, reminded me of Scooby Doo, well there were alot more people getting chased by a monster! What on earth happened to the monster though? Did Rose get the right bucket of water to defeat it? I'm not done yet, Peter Kay was brilliant, and I love his custome, The Absorber! To be honest, I'm not a fan of him, but he was a great villian, so that makes him good in my books. At the very end it was nice to see The Doctor help Elton by giving him some celment lol, but a friend of his, don't her name, but hey, that was cool. Next week we see a drawing come to life, WOOOHOO.

[Kittie Rose]

Anyone thing Elton might be the next sidekick? After all he's lost almost everything in his life.

The girlfriend in the pavement thing was stupid and makes no biological sense. How is she even talking?

[dazzy05]

I having a feeling he might be replacing Micky or Mickey because he is in another world, plus he likes Jackie.

[Ed]

I thought it was fun, although the gay awakening allegory was overplayed with the cane and the slab o' oral sex monologue at the end. If they'd cut it about 2 minutes before it would have been elegant and entertaining rather than clunky and entertaining.

[The Stiv™]

kittierose said:

How is she even talking?

I was more concerned by how many inches deep her mouth is =/.

[wussycat]

I was hoping that they wouldn't pull a deus ex machina and have those people survive, but now I'm wishing they did.

Two questions:

Why did the bucket have to be a specific colour?

What's going to happen to Elton's girlfriend when he dies of old age?

[Samface]

ed2 said:

Ialthough the gay awakening allegory was overplayed

Buh?

I thought it was a bizarre and excellent episode. Loved it. Nice stream-of-consciousness style, good focusing on what would be considered "background" characters (I think Jackie is becoming my favourite person in the series) and the creepiest monster ever. Ever. I fully expect the skies of Britain to be filled with wailing tonight as kids across the land wake from nightmares of being sucked into other people. And pavements.

Why did the bucket have to be a specific colour?

Presumably each bucket had a different type of liquid in it.

What's going to happen to Elton's girlfriend when he dies of old age?

She's a bit screwed, isn't she? Maybe the Doctor'll hang her up as an ornament in the Tardis.

I for one hope Elton returns, whether as a companion or not.

[Ed]

samface said:

ed2 said:

Ialthough the gay awakening allegory was overplayed

Buh?

Lad is told life is about getting married and having a family and is egged on to chase a girl by the cane-wielding Telegraph-reading, people-absorbing headmasterish monster o'conformity until he breaks the cane of patriarchy and realises that life is better with his physically-not-as-incompatible-as-you-might-think true love.

[Baron Canier]

kittierose said:

The girlfriend in the pavement thing was stupid and makes no biological sense. How is she even talking?

This is Dr. Who. Absolutely nothing has to make sense if it doesn't want to.

[Kittie Rose]

I kind of wished for the "Deus Ex Machina" too. Except it wouldn't have BEEN a Deus Ex Machina. It's reasonable to assume that if they were still visible as faces, and the mass went somewhere, then there must have been some kind of way to reconstitute them. And if anyone could do it, the Doctor could.

It seemed like a plot device, in fact, that they had to die instead of be saved by the Doctor. The killing has gone overboard now, it's getting ridiculous. You can pretty much just presume that in 1 out of 2 episodes, everyone you meet bar one or two people are going to die. I mean seriously.

Episode 1 - Cassandra dies, as does her servant.
Episode 2 - Madame Pompadour dies.
Episode 3 - K9 dies.
Episode 4 - A bunch of bums "die".
Episode 5 - Rickie dies, A [censored]load of people die.
Episode 6 - I don't think anyone dies in this one! Hurrah!
Episode 7 - Various crew members
Episode 8 - More crew members
Episode 9 - Most of "Linda".
Episode 10 - The drawings are OBVIOUSLY going to kill a ton of people.
Episode 11 - I don't know, Jackie Tyler dies.
Episode 12 - The Brigadier dies.
Episode 13 - Rose dies.

It's ridiculous. Death is heavily overused as a plot device in the new series and it's just depressing. We're given reason to care about people, and have them taken away, again and again. It's getting old. It still hurts, but is starting to lack resonance.

[Charles]

kittierose said:

It seemed like a plot device, in fact, that they had to die instead of be saved by the Doctor. The killing has gone overboard now, it's getting ridiculous.

Doctor Who has been killing off half the guest cast since 1963. Ever seen the Tom Baker story Horror Of Fang Rock? Everyone but the Doctor & his companion die bloody.

[Baron Canier]

Doctor Who apparently has the highest fatality count in all of fiction history, which isn't too surprising. But even I knew that Dr. Who had death by the bucket load, even before I started watching. If you appear in Doctor Who, chances are you're going to die in one grissly fashion or another.

Hence the relevance of Eccelston's line in Series 1; "Just this once...everybody lives!"

[rj]

Because I feel like it, K9 rocks. He's a robot.

End of story.

[Robert Frazer]

Lad is told life is about getting married and having a family and is egged on to chase a girl by the cane-wielding Telegraph-reading, people-absorbing headmasterish monster o'conformity until he breaks the cane of patriarchy and realises that life is better with his physically-not-as-incompatible-as-you-might-think true love.

Good grief. So now memories of my childhood are going to be warped by the realisation Rainbow isn't a jovial, innocent and pleasantly informative children's programme but was actually produced by members of Militant Tendency as a subversive propoganda piece for the brutal and savage maltreatment of public expression by authority, as made obvious by the fact that the supporting character Zippy could have his mouth zipped shut?

Forgive me for being so blunt, but there's an emoticon for that: " "

Incidentally, the fact that the Abzorbaloff was reading the Telegraph would have a much more practical explanation - the creature needs to be concealed for the great exposure. However, a copy of the Daily Mirror or Mail is obviously far too small for the task... and you can't exactly show the Daily Sport on children's television, either. Since The Guardian, The Independent and The Times have all adopted similar tabloid formats, the only broadsheet newspaper left - and so the only one large enough for the task - just so happens to be the Telegraph. Simple as that!

Doctor Who has been killing off half the guest cast since 1963. Ever seen the Tom Baker story Horror Of Fang Rock? Everyone but the Doctor & his companion die bloody.

Too true... and then who knows how many Rutans were aboard that swirling lightbulb-- erm, mothership? If any of you pick up Doctor Who Monthly, you'll find a regular article entitled "The Time Team", where a group of Whovians pursue the goal of watching and commenting on every last episode of the programme in order - no mean feat when there's over 700 of them - which has been ongoing since 1999. The latest issue I could find in my cupboard opens with episode 500 (The beginning of The Armageddon Factor), and the kill-counter for onscreen fatalities throughout the show had reached 810... And that's not counting all of the out-of-frame events, novels, comic strips, and audio adventures...

[Matt]

This issue < anything else.
my opinion of this weeks, show, which I am no doubt going to be killed for however, my love of doctor who, was at it's highest ever when I watched the Christmas day episode, in fact, it was also all my and my girl Friend called about for a good part of the night.

but as season 2 has gone on, I have lost my love of the story more and more, the plots have become beyond bland and predictable, to the point of stupidity, the adventures of the doctor and rose have become stale and boring, (they come in, they act arrogant, they get a solution, they leave)

Frankly rose should be dead, and I can't wait for her to be killed of, she is arrogant, and way to cocky, she don't know everything and can't mess other people around, because she happens to be the doc companion (don't get me wrong Billie piper does her well, but the writing is terrible) and whats with the doctors love of rose, it's becoming over the top.

the relationship has become to close, the Doctor should have been able to kill rose for the the safety of the rest of the universe last week, rather than having that cop out, of I know she'll be fine.

Anyway on to this week, it was slow, and badly placed, the characters sticking in the meetings with victor, seemed stupid, more people would have left, and nothing showed why they were so willing to be oppressed.

Elton was stupid beyond the realms of normality at times, and the ending were the Doctor entered to predictable, and giving him a paving stone girl Friend, made me cringe.

can't the doctor go far away from these stupid human stories, some purely space stories with just aliens would be nice, we have no had two seasons, focused on humans and earth, something new please.

finally I will add that the removal of Micky was the worst more that could have been made, mickey was by far the best supporting character.

[homsar]

A weird episode but I thought it was good. It reminded me of that episode of Buffy which was from Andrew's point of view. I liked seeing the flashbacks to past episodes from Elton's point of view. And there was more foreshadowing to Rose's eventual fate.

[Kittie Rose]

charlesrb said:

kittierose said:

It seemed like a plot device, in fact, that they had to die instead of be saved by the Doctor. The killing has gone overboard now, it's getting ridiculous.

Doctor Who has been killing off half the guest cast since 1963. Ever seen the Tom Baker story Horror Of Fang Rock? Everyone but the Doctor & his companion die bloody.

Indeed. However that was before it tried to be serious and dramatic. The old Doctor Who was done more like a bad horror movie in some ways. The new series is a sci-fi drama. Totally different ballgame.