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Post by Warped‽‽‽ on Apr 25, 2008 16:34:35 GMT
In particular the points about it being primarily a multiplayer game, but you then have to PLAY LOTS to unlock the biggest hyped up characters, at which point you become THAT GUY. I swear I must be the only person who uses nigh-on the entire roster in Smash Bros. games. I've never seen the point of playing solely as Fox or Link or Marth every time you turn the game on. I use everyone, with the single exception of Yoshi. To be honest, you probably are. Me and my friends who actually do play it rarely use more than say, 3 characters that we're good with. It just becomes competitive habit I suppose. But to be honest, I'd imagine you get more enjoyment/fullfillment from the game your way. So kudos to you. I may try it with Brawl actually. Only, not TOO much, because I don't want to get blasted by my friends...
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Post by Baron Canier on Apr 25, 2008 16:40:45 GMT
I just don't see the point of celebrating a game dedicated to gaming (or at least Nintendo gaming) and then only playing as one or two characters. Just seems to defeat the point.~
In regards to the review, I thought that "Become that guy" meant just playing as one character, hence my above remarks. However I can now say I can relate with what he means by "THAT GUY", except when it comes to me I'm the guy who - depsite owning it - no one wants to play because I'll almost automatically win. I don't care if I lose, I just want to play. Except people very rarely want to play. Kind of irritating.
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Post by Alex on Apr 25, 2008 20:36:19 GMT
Yeah, I can't get anyone to play me at Smash Bros either for the fact that I pwn them all... Hopefully a new game will refresh their hopes long enough to get some games in before I slaughter them all again. ^^
It's really not that hard to get to be good at Smash Bros though - as fighters go it's one of the easiest to get to a high level at while still retaining some depth beyond button mashing.
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Post by Warped‽‽‽ on Apr 25, 2008 22:14:19 GMT
Yeah, but it isn't. You start to win, as THAT guy, your friends want to play less and less... THey don't take the time to learn how to play and be better, because it isn't fun. They'd much rather play something like... Raving Rabbids 2, which is a lot more based on plain luck sometimes. (As is smash bros, but if you know how to play, you know what is more likely to work your favor.)
To me that says something about the current trend games are heading down now.. (Luck > Skill and depth)
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Post by Baron Canier on Apr 25, 2008 22:44:04 GMT
My friends never really wanted to play in the first place, so any matches I get out of them is a good thing. Its just that Smash Bros is infinitely more fun when you've got other people there to play it with, but that hardly ever happens because none of them want to damn well play it; for some reason Mario punching Pikachu whilst getting shot by Fox McCloud doesn't hold any appeal for them.
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Post by Pombar on Apr 26, 2008 9:49:12 GMT
Fighting games are infinitely more fun when everyone's on the same level. THAT guy is basically all my friends, and it killed Smash Bros for me.
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Post by Warped‽‽‽ on Apr 26, 2008 11:51:13 GMT
Fighting games are infinitely more fun when everyone's on the same level. THAT guy is basically all my friends, and it killed Smash Bros for me. There we go. That's the point I was trying to make, from a non-THAT GUY view. Then again, if your friends never wanted to play to begin with Faeros... Shame on them? For not realising that under all the shiny characters, items and arenas, and behind all the items with smiley faces on (Goddamit Mario universe, that's messed up) it IS a fun game. I feel like I've been too critical of it in this topic, but to be honest, these are the only things I can BE critical of about it. I still love the game.
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Post by Pombar on Apr 26, 2008 12:14:24 GMT
It's still a good game, but it's actually more fun for me to play against the computer than to play with my friends. However, this is entirely my fault for not having a Gamecube last gen when everyone else and their dog did.
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Post by Baron Canier on Apr 27, 2008 20:53:26 GMT
The game's fun, but by no means perfect. Its fine for them not to like it, since I can easily see how it could grate your nerves. The nintendo aspect of it isn't what's off-putting, its pretty much the game itself.
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Post by Balls on Apr 28, 2008 11:27:45 GMT
It's still a good game, but it's actually more fun for me to play against the computer than to play with my friends. However, this is entirely my fault for not having a Gamecube last gen when everyone else and their dog did. I honestly don't know how you had so many friends with GameCubes. I've known people in the past, but in my regular social circle, I know... one GameCube owner. Oh, and my brother has one.
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Post by Pombar on Apr 28, 2008 16:07:25 GMT
Everyone I know had a Gamecube. A fair few also had PS2s, two also had an Xbox. My area is Nintendo territory, I guess.
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Post by Badly-Drawn Manchild on Apr 28, 2008 16:30:29 GMT
I know I'm the only person locally who owned a Gamecube. Besides, no-one else would consent to play the game with me, probably because no-one else I knew had it and so I was "that guy".
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Post by Baron Canier on Apr 28, 2008 16:35:06 GMT
Most people I know had one, but also had pairs of consoles too. Of course, as I said, its all moot since no one wanted to play Melee anyways.
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Post by Pombar on Apr 28, 2008 16:40:26 GMT
Someone who owned a Gamecube and not Melee mustn't have got much from the console...
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Post by Baron Canier on Apr 28, 2008 16:55:13 GMT
Someone who owned a Gamecube and not Melee mustn't have got much from the console... lolno.
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Post by Turbocharge on Apr 28, 2008 17:18:32 GMT
Someone who owned a Gamecube and not Melee mustn't have got much from the console... I owned Melee... But I live in the middle of nowhere so multi-player was never an option.
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Post by The Shad on Apr 28, 2008 17:47:40 GMT
I owned Melee... But I live in the middle of nowhere so multi-player was never an option. I feel your pain. And it was made worse by my many hours of practice, meaning anyone who did play against me gave up in sheer frustration.
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Post by Badly-Drawn Manchild on Apr 30, 2008 16:15:46 GMT
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Post by Pombar on Apr 30, 2008 16:17:52 GMT
Kratos is hugely likeable if you're used to ridiculous manly men from Greek myths. Also likeable because he's such a silly stereotype.
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Post by Badly-Drawn Manchild on May 7, 2008 16:18:03 GMT
This week, Yahtzee brings new meaning to the word "four" as he showcases some of the silliest letters from the very silly fanboys in the Post-Brawl Mailbag Showdown.
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Post by Baron Canier on May 7, 2008 16:21:57 GMT
I blinked several times when I saw the title. Honestly didn't see that one coming. Also, I agree massively with his points on differing opinions - just because 'official' review sites dislike/hate a game you like doesn't mean you should get pissed off about it - and what he says about numerical scores. Quite enjoyed it.
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Post by Retro on May 7, 2008 16:30:39 GMT
That was fantastic.
Thing is, I love Brawl, I find it awesome fun. But some of those letters (if true) really are a bit crazy.
But moreso I did love his little mini-rant about fanboyism and console loyalty. I've never liked console fanboys in the slightest, and it's always wonderful to hear a glorious little rant about them.
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Post by Alex on May 7, 2008 16:31:02 GMT
Lol, that was his most hilarious rant for ages. The fact he's clearly a PC gamer (and thus has some innate inner subconscious hatred against every gaming console ever - probably because they're slaughtering PC gaming brutally and publically while PC gaming developers and publishers continue to [censored] on their consumers and treat them all like retards or thieves) and does seem to have a special point of contention against Nintendo (probably caused by the insane amount of fanboys out there, like those highlighted in this video - which is actually pretty sad that people that actually have nothing to do with a game or games company can influence your entire view on a game or games company...) and openly admits the fact he hated the game before he even played it does kinda reveal why the original review was so in contention with... well, everyone else. I'd still stand by the view that as a review - the SSBB one was a pretty bad one that had more to do with personal bias than the actual game. It's Yahtzee's 'shtick' to rant and take the piss, so that's what he did. But really, the Brawl review just really cemented the idea that these are not proper critical reviews - they're comedic, normally well thought-out and formulated rants about games and anyone that does use Zero Punctuation as a legitimate source for advice on whether or not to buy a game should probably just go out and shoot themselves in the foot right now.
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Post by Badly-Drawn Manchild on May 7, 2008 16:32:57 GMT
Thing is, I love Brawl, I find it awesome fun. But some of those letters (if true) really are a bit crazy. Strangely enough, they're not even the craziest letters I've seen from fanboys. I received some choice examples during the whole Sonic '06 debacle on GameStyle, and I'm pretty sure they're just the tip of the iceberg that these idiots can come up with.
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Post by Alex on May 7, 2008 16:33:13 GMT
But moreso I did love his little mini-rant about fanboyism and console loyalty. I've never liked console fanboys in the slightest, and it's always wonderful to hear a glorious little rant about them. Actually, I often find ranting about fanboys to be about as tedious as the fanboys themselves.
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