Pitt
Script Hume
Ungrateful Sonic Saxophonist
If Lando dies, I'll destroy your planet!
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Post by Pitt on Jun 29, 2010 13:37:41 GMT
The Mad Mod would really be better suited as a Doom Patrol villain (the comic book version might be; I can't remember).
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Post by Super Sonic on Jun 29, 2010 15:43:42 GMT
I read that as 'Mambo the Mad Mod'. XD
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Post by Emilybee on Jun 29, 2010 19:07:06 GMT
Honestly... The joke is only more amusing when you seen mad mod anyway. Though Mumbo was actaully pretty good as far as "fun" villians go.
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Aria
Big Time Boomer
One of few stars and many words.
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Post by Aria on Jul 1, 2010 13:09:01 GMT
Funny stereotypical British dude vs funny epic magician... That would be fun to watch. Is this off-topic?
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Post by Super Sonic on Jul 1, 2010 13:47:47 GMT
Yes.
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Post by Emilybee on Jul 1, 2010 21:21:12 GMT
I tried to tie it in so we could keep talking about it, but I failed lol.
Lets get back on topic.
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Pitt
Script Hume
Ungrateful Sonic Saxophonist
If Lando dies, I'll destroy your planet!
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Post by Pitt on Jul 1, 2010 22:14:54 GMT
I've no grievance with fan characters. Obviously there are some I've made for some stories in the comic.
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Aria
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Post by Aria on Jul 2, 2010 2:33:16 GMT
Right. *saves the picture of Mad Mod and goes back on topic* Anyway, about making up fan characters for the comic, if someone's licensed another person to create a product using their material, is that really 'fan' material? Even if the license is no longer valid, would the characters created under the license stop being official?
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Pitt
Script Hume
Ungrateful Sonic Saxophonist
If Lando dies, I'll destroy your planet!
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Post by Pitt on Jul 2, 2010 15:37:00 GMT
Difficult to say, really. I guess you have to consider the extent to which the creators are fans of the original source material.
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legionfan44
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Post by legionfan44 on Jul 2, 2010 15:54:03 GMT
Fan characters are fine...Until people start making AMVs on Youtube about them...Darn you youtube! DARN YOU!
Personally I find fancharacters more enjyoable when its just..hey this is what I would look like as a Mobian/Ninja/Pirate/Decepticon/etc....(which then make me wish certain franchises had MMO's even though lord knows they don't need one.)
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Post by Beeth on Jul 2, 2010 16:02:31 GMT
I agree entirely. I said more or less everything I needed to in my initial post, but I feel the point you make about AMVs on Youtube cements my grief with the general create-a-character scene, in games, and in the artwork of the many fans of whatever franchise concerned. People generally aren't interested and would pass them over but for a song they like. It's more or less sponging the works of others as a gateway to self-promotion.
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Post by Emilybee on Jul 2, 2010 21:50:14 GMT
*coughcoughDeviantartcoughcough*
Biggest self promotion grounds on the net. Seriously, fanart is everywhere on that site and over half is mostly fancharacters.
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Aria
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Post by Aria on Jul 6, 2010 21:23:45 GMT
*coughcoughDeviantartcoughcough* Biggest self promotion grounds on the net. Seriously, fanart is everywhere on that site and over half is mostly fancharacters. Oh gawd devianTART. That site is a cesspool of human stupidity and the biggest [censored]fest on the internet. If you've ever been to YouTube and made an intelligent comment only to be flamed for it just because it didn't contain "OMG THIS IS PERFECT" in it, you'll know what dA is like, except imagine if YouTube had journals people could bash other people in and flame wars consisting mostly of why fan content isn't appropriate for the canon. (And I was probably involved in half of them when I used to frequent it.) One thing that pisses me off about fan content is when people sart makin female versions of male characters and ALWAYS using the same perfect body type. It just shows how shallow and depraved they are, especially when most of them use Tails of all the blasted characters they could use that actually are of the appropriate age to have that kind of growth. Another thing is when these idiots start matching couples that would never date, EVER, like Sonic and Shadow, and what's even worse about it is that they're usually girls. I'd think a gay male would be more interested in that, but no, it's always the girls. And then there's their fanfiction which is always 'adult' content even though most of the games they take from are rated E. Sonic's fans are especially guilty of this. I can say I'm proud to attempt to keep the friendly rating in-tact in all of my writings. Compared to that crap simple fan character drawings are tame. I do hate the AMVs though because they're usually all emofail.
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Post by Beeth on Jul 6, 2010 21:31:36 GMT
Here's a simple solution: don't read the comments and journals.
And anyway, if someone wants to draw Knuckles having sex with a Yorkshire pudding, or whatever, let them. No skin off my nose. And nobody's forcing you to look, either. The content filter is there for a reason, you know.
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Post by Emilybee on Jul 7, 2010 9:35:02 GMT
I hoenstly say is if the cast isn't more then 70% of Sonic characters, then the fanfiction isn't really about Sonic.
Does Shadow even know what sexual attraction is to begin with though is always my first question on romance and HIM. The guy barely shows he cares about anyone. Therefore, I rule out any Shadow x romance which are done without a good solid reason FOR him.
And Shadow and Sonic? Their like vingeur and water, they will settle next together but they certainly won't mix their chemicals together to form soemthing else besides what they are.
But I do understand where Aria is coming from... If you think Archie is bad at romance, you ain't seen nothing yet.
Small note about DA; its more self promotion and seflish whoring then it is about being a artist. I preferred Elfwood when it was the big contender, since they attempted to ensure that the art was at least passable before it was upped. And is wasn't dam easy at all joining that site.
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Aria
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Post by Aria on Jul 8, 2010 6:59:17 GMT
Here's a simple solution: don't read the comments and journals. And anyway, if someone wants to draw Knuckles having sex with a Yorkshire pudding, or whatever, let them. No skin off my nose. And nobody's forcing you to look, either. The content filter is there for a reason, you know. That's not very productive. I don't like what the fandom has become and ignoring it only lets it progress. If your best friend has cancer that's slowly killing him, but it doesn't effect you at all to get involved and help them, would you just ignore it and let the cancer have it's way? That's how I look at it.
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Post by Beeth on Jul 8, 2010 16:18:44 GMT
...ignoring the fact that you're comparing a fanbase to a life-threatening disease(?), if you don't like certain aspects of the fandom, tough! Nothing you can do about it! Everything has a fanbase, and every fanbase has it's share of idiots. It's a fact of life.
Don't take it so seriously. Enjoy the product for what it is, not what the fans are like. Simple.
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Post by Ben2k9 on Jul 8, 2010 19:31:50 GMT
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Pitt
Script Hume
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Post by Pitt on Jul 8, 2010 19:36:57 GMT
That's not very productive. I don't like what the fandom has become and ignoring it only lets it progress. What would you do about it, then?
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Post by Emilybee on Jul 8, 2010 20:23:19 GMT
Aria, I'm getting feelings about you, that you'd love a half-****ed fanfiction, the kind where all the homodriven fangirls squell over yet anyone with tastes thinks its crap. You know, *those* kind. While its true, improvments are possible, no one attempts to nib dieased buds off the plant before they destroy the whole plant. So the plant grows and grows even more, covered in diease and looking sorry for itself. When you DO get interesting fanfiction, I tend to find it gets no attention because its just not "fun" for fangirls. I gave up on fanfiction because the swell of bad stuff grew too big thanks to sites like Fanfiction .net and deviantart. Maybe your not that kind, but I'm getting that impression here. Ben2k9, if only I wasn't sick of echinda variants...
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Post by Ben2k9 on Jul 8, 2010 21:11:56 GMT
meh, they're old, I dont use him anymore, I just thought Id throw in my 2 cents.
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Post by Beeth on Jul 8, 2010 21:16:16 GMT
I have to admit, Wulfbane's design is decent. What was your base for it?
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Post by Emilybee on Jul 8, 2010 22:44:17 GMT
meh, they're old, I dont use him anymore, I just thought Id throw in my 2 cents. I meant no offence, its just there are so many echidna fan mades bore me. Their GOOD don't worry, its just too many. I have no opinion of the bottom one though, I've really thought about it yet though. Lol.
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Post by Ben2k9 on Jul 9, 2010 9:35:29 GMT
I have to admit, Wulfbane's design is decent. What was your base for it? Tails head, but thats about it, the rest is custom.
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Aria
Big Time Boomer
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Post by Aria on Jul 10, 2010 5:15:33 GMT
Don't take it so seriously. Enjoy the product for what it is, not what the fans are like. Simple. And what do you do if the product becomes what the fans want it to be? Shrug it off and let it become something like that? I guess if Sonic '06 gets a sequel with ten billion fan characters as new characters and bosses and make Sonic get beat by them in every cut-scene and make some villain beat Eggman/Robotnik up and take over and make Sonic date characters he would never date, you would sit there and let that happen and look back at what the game used to be... completely ignoring the fact that it has become something like that? Maybe your not that kind, but I'm getting that impression here. No, I'm not like that. I'm just tired of the crap in the fandom killing the actual games. Its influence on '06 is obvious. No human being can sit back and watch something they care about burn to the ground, and while there is little anyone can do about it, it doesn't stop me from trying to at least tell someone why others flame them for retarded ideas or what's wrong with something they're doing. We'll see if there's nothing I can do about it, it doesn't stop me from trying and at least I do try.
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