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Post by Gizmo on Jan 10, 2005 20:28:59 GMT
You know, I kind of hate it when everyone gangs up on me ALL the time because *I hate sony I couldnt have guessed that so why do you get so uptight when someone calls you it. which would explain why their console is the weakest of the 3. ] Are'nt I entitled to an oposing view? lol but thats what your doing
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Post by Omnion (yes, he is a man) on Jan 10, 2005 20:29:21 GMT
Look, Gizmo, I'm sorry. I just hate it when people get all 1-sided. And yeah, I hate it when people call me a fanboy because I'm NOT, and I'm nippy NOW for obvious reasons. Okay, THIS TIME I'm gone...
One last thing-the GC is not the weakest of the 3. I'd say PS2, but I won't in case Arch tries to ban me.
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Post by Hevs on Jan 10, 2005 20:32:33 GMT
Could you shut the door behind...*SLAM* er thank you onion
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Post by Zerolus on Jan 10, 2005 20:41:32 GMT
All of you, Calm. Down.
Much better.
Gizmo:
"Faliures" you say? Sorry, but that just makes you sound Anti-Ninty Biased. And it gives an impression that you seem to think that even their games are rubbish while this does not hold out true. Ever played a Nintendo game? Try this:
*Hands over a copy of The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker*
MadHair:
That just won't work.
Harsh. And unfair. Then again... if people start using them as insults (which is ridiculous)...
@ Ominon: Don't get angry and personal about it. Yeah, I know its annoying the way some people see Nintendo in an Anti way, but that doesn't mean you should get angry.
Now then, I'd suggest we'd either stop arguing over the two right now or recommend a thread locking. The last thing I want to happen on this forum is the Nintendo vs. Sony war breaking out here. Remember, all of us here are fans of one thing; Sonic the Hedgehog. Lets not have any of this between us all.
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Post by Gizmo on Jan 10, 2005 20:41:45 GMT
One last thing-the GC is not the weakest of the 3. I'd say PS2, *roars of laughter can be heard accross the world*
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Post by Omnion (yes, he is a man) on Jan 10, 2005 20:44:34 GMT
Now, I REALLY WOULD say "fan boy" to Gizmo (not as an insult), but I think this topic is screwed as it is, so let's move on.
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Post by archangelffx on Jan 10, 2005 20:45:05 GMT
"Madhair's a Chris Fanboy" Where the [censored] did that come from? Sorry, was said in the Sonic X thread. Secondly, I apologize, Omnion. Sort of. Maybe I was a little bit 'nippy' there and I have no real reason to be. Just one of those little things that get me going... But don't be immature and say I'll ban you . I'm not a mod but I'm entitled to enjoy my stay on this forum. I, like everyone else, want to just share an opinion. Anyway, I've apologized for more than I need so I'm dropping it. Just been on the Sega site and seen outlines for 'Project Rub'. It does seem more intriguing than what I've heard so far and it's a unique way to utilize the DS's facilities. But it may just be a novelty.
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Post by Omnion (yes, he is a man) on Jan 10, 2005 20:48:11 GMT
Cheers, Arch. Maybe you aren't so bad after all! Ah, what the heck, I'm sorry too if I came across as immature, if you knew me better I'm sure you'd see it all in a different light. I just hate it when people get anti-Nintendo in the way some people did. *coughs*Gizmo Sorry all. Well, the majority.
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Post by Mango on Jan 11, 2005 9:15:06 GMT
Actually, Gizmo, Nintendo haven't had A LOT OF FAILURES. They've had one. The Nintendo Virtual Boy. See, the thing is, is although I am a Nintendo fan, I can admit to their failures.
You can't say that Sony have had nothing but success with two machines and a handheld which has sold in very low numbers. What about some of the problems that PS2s get with reading discs, and the lasers failing? Even the slimline PS2s have problems that Sony haven't focused on fixing.
The problem with Sony is that they know that they can skimp on the corners with the quality, because they know that there are mugs who are still going to buy their consoles and kiss their... rear. Much like yourself.
Nintendo have been in the console business a lot longer than Sony. Their handheld consoles have fought off EVERY single rival thus far that has thrown their hat into the ring. Maybe the Gamecube sales aren't the highest in the world, but at least they're not skimping at corners and taking shortcuts with their consoles.
I'm not going to use the f word (the one that starts with f and ends in anboy or angirl), but that is exactly what you're being and it's not a proud thing to be, really. Out of the three main competitors on the market, Nintendo has been making consoles the longest, and I trust them in what they're doing. I don't need a console that can play DVDs and make toast and do the laundry for me. But that's me. Maybe other people do need these things. I'm not biased against Sony. My brother has a PS2 that I play a few games on. I have several Sega consoles as well. In fact, we own the entire Nintendo back-catalogue as well as all the Sega back-catalogue (except for the Saturn, and the Megadrive add-ons). So I'm not biased like you.
But we're getting off-topic here. The problem is, Gizmo, is that we'd all called a truce and were starting to get back to a friendly versus conversation about the PSP and DS.. Until you came in and started shooting your f**girly lip about. If you don't mind, I'd rather like to get back on-topic and stop all this bitter sniping.
EDIT: Yes, I know that I have ranted quite enough, but the way I see it is that every single console has it's flaws, and if you can't acknowledge the fact that your sacred Sony consoles have their flaws, Gizmo, then it's really quite a sad thing.
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Post by JJ on Jan 11, 2005 10:50:28 GMT
Well, technically the N64 and GC are failures because they lost/are losing the console war to Sony and others. I wouldn't exactly use the word 'failure' though, because they still manage to turn out some of the best games in the world, no matter how well they're doing in the actual console race.
If you really think the PS2 is the weakest of the three, I feel very sorry for your lack of judgment. Personally I spend 90% of my gaming playing on my PS2 and the other scant 10% occasionally playing Sonic on my 'Cube. I haven't played the GC in quite a frightening amount of time, and won't begin playing it again until Resident Evil 4. But that's just me personally.
And i'm glad Gizmo is arguing her case, because there are way too many Sony-haters on these boards.
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Post by madhair60 on Jan 11, 2005 12:00:42 GMT
I, too apologise to all I have offended in this topic.
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Post by Omnion (yes, he is a man) on Jan 11, 2005 17:10:50 GMT
Well, technically the N64 and GC are failures because they lost/are losing the console war to Sony and others. I wouldn't exactly use the word 'failure' though, because they still manage to turn out some of the best games in the world, no matter how well they're doing in the actual console race. If you really think the PS2 is the weakest of the three, I feel very sorry for your lack of judgment. Personally I spend 90% of my gaming playing on my PS2 and the other scant 10% occasionally playing Sonic on my 'Cube. I haven't played the GC in quite a frightening amount of time, and won't begin playing it again until Resident Evil 4. But that's just me personally. I agree that the GC is not selling well, but it is certainly not a failure, with a much higher general quality of game than the others, I THINK. (Gizmo) And as for my "lack of judgement", I think it's unfair for you to say this when your basing that on your own personal opinion, you know? The PS2, (which I am aware is a great console) has an awful lot more truly terrible games on it, generally trash that just gets churned out quickly. (like video nasties) Without such great games like GTA and the Jak series, it would have destroyed the PS2. It doesn't, but still puts it at a disadvantage to the GC and Xbox in terms of quality. Even my friends admit this, and they really are PS2 fanboys (sorry for using such repulsive language, but it's true! )
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Post by Zerolus on Jan 11, 2005 17:19:53 GMT
And i'm glad Gizmo is arguing her case, because there are way too many Sony-haters on these boards. I don't hate Sony. Just those stupid, blinkered fans who think "Go PS2, Sod everything else". Not that I wish to imply every PS2 fan with that comment. Just the idiots who just cannot accept that are excellent games only avalible on other systems which rival those exclusive to PS2.
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Post by Omnion (yes, he is a man) on Jan 11, 2005 17:23:46 GMT
EXACTLY what I mean, Zerolus! Finally, someone who understands!
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Post by Mango on Jan 11, 2005 18:06:28 GMT
I concur. That is the point that I'm trying (unsuccessfully) to get across. I don't hate other consoles. I just hate when people are being so narrow-minded over it that they get to this level of "fanboy/girl".
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Post by Gizmo on Jan 11, 2005 18:48:10 GMT
mambos thing. sorry but I needed the character space! thank you for that interesting thing... however nobody has even read what I put, I said that "People will see the failures nintendos and the sucess of sony and will go with what has been the better console." think of it this way, look at nintendo and sonys track record. N64, it was a good machine but it didnt last, the psx lasted much longer. gamecube. its the weakest machine and people see this, the reason being that it doesnt match any machine out there, it has no dvd ability, no online ability (even though it can we're still waiting), other then party play games and the odd adventure game is there a game on it (exclusively) of another genre? people remember these points and when you look at what the newest handheld rival's past history has done they are more prone to get that because of the huge success. people say that nintendo have been in the market the longest, well so what. they are showing signs that they no longer know what they are doing which is illustrated through their new machine, they dont listen to their patrons, we wanted online gaming and dvds could be played on both xbox and ps2 which were huge selling points, but nintendo didnt include this feature on their machines which was a huge mistake. they snatched up the exclusive resident evil franchise and have lost it before the 4th game was even made! And their gameboy handheld stuff lately never seems to last, ever since the gameboy colour (which had a very short life) they then made the GBA and that was a dreadful handheld, as powerful as it was it has tons of design faults which prompted them to redesign and re release. also anyone remember the gameboy camera and the printer? what a disaster they were. all of those things are global problems which affect every owner who buys anything ninendo related. now look at the global problems that effect a sony owner. the only thing I can think of is that pocket station thing, it never got a release in the UK but it did elsewere and im pretty sure that its use is no more, that effects all who got one. now the faults you said are all singular owner problems. they do not affect everyone. the laser problems you said do not affect every machine my ps2 has worked fine with no problems and ive owned one since its release. do you think that a lot of gamecube owners havnt experience laser skip problems? or some of the other things you said. Now you claim that I went off topic, I did nothing of the sort, I commented that people who have no loyalty to any console will look at the points I said and the failures of nintendo and the sucess of sony and this'll influence their decision. You cannot deny that nintendo lately has bee very nany like in its governing. they are being so careful in what they do they havnt listened or looked at what people want, people will realise this and will go for the company that seems to be giving them what they want and what they like. and if you are open minded you will see that it is sony which seems to be the better choice when it comes to whats better in the long run the psp or the ds, I own both a ps2 and a gamecube and I must say that all of the let downs with the gamecube and its predicessors prompts me to favour sony more. but anyway as I said before its very likely that both wont suceed. So mambo please dont accuse me of being snide when im so far the only one who has been open minded by looking at what others will see when you yourself have admitted that your a nintendo fan and are clearly biased in your views.
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Post by Zerolus on Jan 11, 2005 20:36:08 GMT
Opinions. Stupid opinions. Nintendo didn't choose the on-line gaming option because it would cost a helluva lot of money and they didn't want to lose customers. Besides, you would need a good connection for it to even work. And PS2, unlike Xbox, doesn't go online all throughout the world, so that makes No# of players very limited. Also, I might add, is that the world can be full of jerks who would swear down your throat if you ever killed them. You get very few people you would not take it seriously and realise they're just playing a simple game. And Nintendo want their games and have a reputation of "User-Friendly" so they didn't take the route of on-line. As for DVD's, Nintendo wanted to attract customers with a low saleprice, so no DVD compitility was included. THAT'S why GC's are cheaper then PS2's and Xbox's. And its hardly a pain. In fact, take away the DVD compitility and PS2's would still be more expensive then a DVD Player. As for the GameBoy, you've got to be kidding, right? Gunpei Yokoi's handheld masterpiece is a legend. And the GBA is incredible. It fits into my hands nicely and all the buttons are set into the right place. And what games did you play? Crazy Taxi? Go play this.You've got to be absolutely kidding about the "open minded" thing. You're telling us that we should turn our noses up on Nintendo. Pathetic. We're not telling you to turn you're back on Sony. We're telling you that Nintendo are better then you think and will not go down without a flipping fight. And BTW, her name is Mango.
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Post by madhair60 on Jan 11, 2005 20:52:50 GMT
Opinions. Stupid opinions. :/ Ouch. The GBA was rushed out and it shows. Poor visibility and derivative design. That's all that Gizmo is pointing out. The quality of games is not an issue - the GBA hosts some of the greatest games of all time. She's telling us her opinions about a games company. Don't be so hostile - it makes YOU sound the pathetic one. The final word, then. PSP and DS both have their own merits, and I hope both consoles do well. I will personally be buying a DS, because I like the possibilities for touch screen gaming as well as its backwards compatibility. However, the PSP is sre to have some amazing games on offer. Topic locked. All complaints to my PM box, where they WILL be read and considered.
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